I do think hating socialist states with the same or worse ferocity that capitalist states get is a serious misjudgement. Administration is necessary for large scale production and distribution, whether you count that as a state or not. Communism as a stateless, classless, moneyless society would have no class, but would still have administration.
Administration and protocols do not need to be centralized, and in fact centralization is a weakness.
The fediverse, and TCP/IP more broadly, even the physical structure of the internet kind of prove that, even compromises by existing within the context of forced hierarchal structures like capitalist ownership and legal accountability by authoritarian states.
Centralization and authority is a weakness and allows for corruption and everything to go to shit. Do we not remember reddit, here?
Shit just needs to make an effort towards compatibility. A little slack to kludge things together where it’s needed, and people who genuinely give a shit about systems working.
Coordination has costs, and pretending you can force it with men with guns is just absurd. Let everybody bend, dont pretend you can have a system with perfect efficiency, and allow slack where it’s needed. You’ll end up with a better more efficient system overall.
It does not require authority, centralization, or punishment. Openness is a perfectly good substitute.
Some cases need binding control, especially related to industrial environments and hazardous working conditions. We develop methods of organizing and structuring ourselves often because it’s useful, not because it benefits the person with a broader scope of responsibility, kinda like strategians vs tacticians. Those in these positions can be elected, chosen based on merit, etc, and will serve for greater prosperity than had these positions been avoided out of a moral objection to hierarchy.
I do think hating socialist states with the same or worse ferocity that capitalist states get is a serious misjudgement. Administration is necessary for large scale production and distribution, whether you count that as a state or not. Communism as a stateless, classless, moneyless society would have no class, but would still have administration.
Administration and protocols do not need to be centralized, and in fact centralization is a weakness.
The fediverse, and TCP/IP more broadly, even the physical structure of the internet kind of prove that, even compromises by existing within the context of forced hierarchal structures like capitalist ownership and legal accountability by authoritarian states.
Centralization and authority is a weakness and allows for corruption and everything to go to shit. Do we not remember reddit, here?
Shit just needs to make an effort towards compatibility. A little slack to kludge things together where it’s needed, and people who genuinely give a shit about systems working.
Coordination has costs, and pretending you can force it with men with guns is just absurd. Let everybody bend, dont pretend you can have a system with perfect efficiency, and allow slack where it’s needed. You’ll end up with a better more efficient system overall.
It does not require authority, centralization, or punishment. Openness is a perfectly good substitute.
I’ve tried to explain to you for soo many times that anarchists argue that administration does not equal a command-and-control authority.
Some cases need binding control, especially related to industrial environments and hazardous working conditions. We develop methods of organizing and structuring ourselves often because it’s useful, not because it benefits the person with a broader scope of responsibility, kinda like strategians vs tacticians. Those in these positions can be elected, chosen based on merit, etc, and will serve for greater prosperity than had these positions been avoided out of a moral objection to hierarchy.
… and you refuse to understand again.
I understand, I just disagree with you.