Why are you calling me fash? I’m here because i like lemmy, and i like freedom, respect for the workers, for minorities, I’m anti authoritarian, and anti nationalist.
BTW nice that mods are banning me every time i’m posting some facts.
I just asked a question about soviet invasion on Poland on 17 september 1939. So when Poland was still fighting against nazis, and only half of the country was under nazi occupation.
If soviets helped Poland, and only attack nazis, war could stop in a few months. Instead soviets decided to attack polish forces.
Few months later soviets arrested and transported thousands of polish intellectuals, officers, professors, etc, to Katyn. What happened then?
All of them were murdered. This was a big hit in a polish culture, science, and knowledge. By killing intellectuals, professors etc, polish culture were targeted, and that’s why this was the genocide.
And that’s one of many reasons, why we don’t line russia, we don’t like soviet union, and we don’t want to be an ally to any of them (especially now when russia is a far right wing nationalist authoritarian regime).
This post also gonna be removed?
The soviets did help Poland. They prevented the Nazis from occupying it all. Also why should we trust capitalist Russia who distanced themselves from communism and everything Stalin did?
Dude, have you read what i posted? Genocide, and the occupation is not help.
Also why should we trust capitalist Russia who distanced themselves from communism and everything Stalin did?
I don’t think that we should trust russia. Current right wing government is antiworker, homophobic, and very oligarchic. Russia needs some kind of revolution, russians need to do revolution again.
Preventing it from being occupied by the Nazis is more help than letting it be occupied by Nazis.
I don’t think that we should trust russia. Current right wing government is antiworker, homophobic, and very oligarchic. Russia needs some kind of revolution, russians need to do revolution again.
Like there was no other option, like, hmmm, helping Poland fight nazis, and winning the war at the beginning?
The soviets tried forming an anti-nazi alliance before the war started. Promising to send in a million men. They were turned down and upon realising they were on their own, seeked out a non-aggression pact with the Nazis (which everyone had already done up to that point).
No they signed a non-aggression pact which everyone else had done at the time. The pact had spheres of influence, a clear “don’t fuck with us when we do things here and we won’t fuck with you do things there” there was nothing in it that said anything about some military alliance to invafe Poland.
Molotov-Ribbentrop was signed 2 weeks before the nazi invasion of Poland and 1 week before it was signed by the supreme soviet. You don’t attack a country together within a week that requires months of time planning.
The Nazis invaded Poland and the polish government went into exile so the soviets rushed in to prevent land that was historically part of their territory and inhabited by many ethnic Belorussians and Ukrainians from being occupied by the Nazis. Land that had been taken from them by Poland in their war of aggression to achieve their maximum historical borders even though as I mentioned had spent so much time outside of Polish control now had sizable Belarusian and Ukrainian inhabitants.
Of course, were we to live in a timeline where the soviets did leave all of Poland to be occupied by the Nazis. Idiots like you would be going on about how stupid and evil the soviets were for not doing anything from preventing the land from falling into Nazi hands. Doing nothing to protect the people living there when they had the opportunity and allowing the Nazis to get a border even closer.
Dude, you’re started this discussion, you asked me before about arguments and facts. And here we’re now. Now you know why Poland, and other post east blocks, don’t want to be a part of new russian empire, and why we like to be a part of UE.
why are you here fash?
Why are you calling me fash? I’m here because i like lemmy, and i like freedom, respect for the workers, for minorities, I’m anti authoritarian, and anti nationalist.
BTW nice that mods are banning me every time i’m posting some facts.
I just asked a question about soviet invasion on Poland on 17 september 1939. So when Poland was still fighting against nazis, and only half of the country was under nazi occupation.
If soviets helped Poland, and only attack nazis, war could stop in a few months. Instead soviets decided to attack polish forces.
Few months later soviets arrested and transported thousands of polish intellectuals, officers, professors, etc, to Katyn. What happened then?
All of them were murdered. This was a big hit in a polish culture, science, and knowledge. By killing intellectuals, professors etc, polish culture were targeted, and that’s why this was the genocide.
In 2010 russian admits that soviet forces did it: https://warsawinstitute.org/katyn-massacre-mechanisms-genocide/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/26/russian-parliament-guilt-katyn-massacre
And that’s one of many reasons, why we don’t line russia, we don’t like soviet union, and we don’t want to be an ally to any of them (especially now when russia is a far right wing nationalist authoritarian regime). This post also gonna be removed?
The soviets did help Poland. They prevented the Nazis from occupying it all. Also why should we trust capitalist Russia who distanced themselves from communism and everything Stalin did?
Dude, have you read what i posted? Genocide, and the occupation is not help.
I don’t think that we should trust russia. Current right wing government is antiworker, homophobic, and very oligarchic. Russia needs some kind of revolution, russians need to do revolution again.
Preventing it from being occupied by the Nazis is more help than letting it be occupied by Nazis.
Oh so now you agree with me.
Like there was no other option, like, hmmm, helping Poland fight nazis, and winning the war at the beginning?
I was always anti russian government. Current imperialistic russia is a enemy of post east block countries.
The soviets tried forming an anti-nazi alliance before the war started. Promising to send in a million men. They were turned down and upon realising they were on their own, seeked out a non-aggression pact with the Nazis (which everyone had already done up to that point).
And that’s way they signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, and then together with Nazis, they attacked Poland?
Nice strategy.
No they signed a non-aggression pact which everyone else had done at the time. The pact had spheres of influence, a clear “don’t fuck with us when we do things here and we won’t fuck with you do things there” there was nothing in it that said anything about some military alliance to invafe Poland.
Molotov-Ribbentrop was signed 2 weeks before the nazi invasion of Poland and 1 week before it was signed by the supreme soviet. You don’t attack a country together within a week that requires months of time planning.
The Nazis invaded Poland and the polish government went into exile so the soviets rushed in to prevent land that was historically part of their territory and inhabited by many ethnic Belorussians and Ukrainians from being occupied by the Nazis. Land that had been taken from them by Poland in their war of aggression to achieve their maximum historical borders even though as I mentioned had spent so much time outside of Polish control now had sizable Belarusian and Ukrainian inhabitants.
Of course, were we to live in a timeline where the soviets did leave all of Poland to be occupied by the Nazis. Idiots like you would be going on about how stupid and evil the soviets were for not doing anything from preventing the land from falling into Nazi hands. Doing nothing to protect the people living there when they had the opportunity and allowing the Nazis to get a border even closer.
It’s not like Poland want to attack Nazi Germany in 1933, but no one wanted to join…
you’re a fascist, everybody knows you’re a fascist, at least own up to it and be honest with yourself
Why you don’t want to answer my question regarding soviet attack on Poland, and Katyn genocide?
C’mon.
Why would I feed a fascist troll? Not like these topics haven’t been discussed to death already.
Dude, you’re started this discussion, you asked me before about arguments and facts. And here we’re now. Now you know why Poland, and other post east blocks, don’t want to be a part of new russian empire, and why we like to be a part of UE.
All I know is that you’re a deranged troll.