• Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      1 day ago

      Yeah, have not heard about any of these problems before this post…

  • cygnus@lemmy.ca
    1763·
    1 day ago

    Me using KDE Plasma because I prefer to work with my computer rather than work on my computer:

    • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      10 hours ago

      The rare double ambiguity: “work on” and “work with” could both have two meanings with opposite effects in the sentence

    • cadekat@pawb.social
      27·
      1 day ago

      I caved and used KDE on my last install, and boy do I miss Gnome.

      Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

      • ray@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        23 hours ago

        Couldn’t you just install Gnome now? Most distros have packages for Gnome and KDE, and there’s usually nothing stopping you from installing them both.

        • cadekat@pawb.social
          6·
          22 hours ago

          I could, but I’ll probably stick with KDE until I reinstall. It ain’t broke, just not exactly what I want.

      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
        8·
        23 hours ago

        Not that KDE is bad, but Gnome is just so my style.

        can’t you just customise KDE to just work like gnome?

        • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
          5·
          23 hours ago

          Possible? Yes. Accomplishable, dunno. You can get very close visually etc. Far closer than making GNOME look like KDE. But I have a feeling that some of the panel meaning dropdowns etc would be the first places to falter. Though, maybe someone has fitting panel apps already.

    • blinfabian@feddit.nlEnglish
      11·
      10 hours ago

      i use kde but i do like it heavily customised, im not going through 1000 config files to make it 1% smoother and to change the wallpaper tho

    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      16 hours ago

      I’m not sure what’s wrong with my config but almost every time I wake it from having the screens off (it doesn’t sleep because it’s my media PC too) plasma is just dead and may or may not boot up again. Running plasmashell —replace (or whatever the command is) doesn’t fix it every time.

      I blame nvidia.

    • Phoeniqz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      65·
      1 day ago

      These folks have a skill issue tho, haven’t touched my hyprland config in ages. Just don’t overcomplicate/bloat your config, it’s not that hard.

      • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        16 hours ago

        Default configs are very great, but to be fair, a lot of people who use hyprland would be hardcore ricers, so I can see why deprecations would hit most advanced users quite hard.

      • OrganicMustard@lemmy.world
        8·
        23 hours ago

        I had to change mine every few months because they keep deprecating stuff. Changed to Niri a week ago because I got dozens of config errors after an update.

  • Lian Dynn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    21 hours ago

    And that is why I no longer use Hyprland and actually thinking about removing that branch from my dotfiles repo. Why vaxry doesn’t seem to understand the concept of “deprecation”?

    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      16 hours ago

      Dumbest thing in software imo, is when I see software that is obviously worthy of being out of v0 (beta, alpha, etc), stay in v0.

      Though since it still is v0, I guess we can’t expect much.

      Not sure why it is, maybe there is a good reason, but the software functions well enough for a stable release, though at the same time, this is a very small scale operation with great ambitions and a big userbase. If you api needs to be updated, it’s obviously much easier to just push a breaking change than to maintain a migration period.

      There’s a lot of nuance, but I’d like more software to just enter v1 when it works as intended and then breaking changes can increment the major version rather than staying in v0 which is harder to tell when a breaking change happens.

      p.s. so far config changes in hyprland have only been a 5 min fix so i haven’t experienced this fuss yet, maybe soon!

    • ne0phyte@feddit.org
      10·
      20 hours ago

      I moved on to Niri a couple of months ago for various reasons, constantly having to fix and re-check my config against the docs being one of them.

      For me Niri performs better, I really like the workflow and the dev behind it is very deliberate with new features and changes. Feels like he has a clear vision on how it’s supposed to work and it shows imo.

      • porkloin@lemmy.world
        2·
        8 hours ago

        Just recently switched to Niri myself - I think the fact that Niri inherits a lot from Smithay for compositior stuff really helps. It’s the same compositor base that cosmic DE uses. Sure hyprland has HDR at present and Niri doesn’t, but I think it helps a lot to not build a compositor and a TWM at the same time. vaxry is honestly just doing way too much and it’s unsustainable and new version blow ups like this were inevitable given how big the install base has become and how huge hyprland feature set has gotten

  • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
    32·
    1 day ago

    Are newbies really installing hyprland? I would think they’d stick with kde/gnome/cinnamon.

    • F04118F@feddit.nl
      55·
      1 day ago

      In an ideal world.

      But in our world, newbies are being recommended:

      • Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)
      • A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy 🤮)
      • NixOS. I don’t even known where to begin with this one.

      To be 100% clear, I use and like CachyOS and Nix (home manager). CachyOS and NixOS are great projects with good technical performance toward their respective goals (good defaults and performance on Arch, and declarative configuration, respectively), but they are not beginner friendly.

        • Damage@feddit.it
          1·
          10 hours ago

          I’m on Bazzite now, but I was on Fedora for a looong time and I even moved the same installation from one laptop to the next, just dd’d the drive, zero problems.

      • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
        7·
        21 hours ago

        In some ways I think NixOS is good for beginners. I started with Ubuntu, then Arch, then NixOS.

        I managed to break Ubuntu and Arch in some really weird ways which made reinstalling my root directory easier than diagnosing the issues.

        You cannot break NixOS unless you do some funky chroot shit or rebuild with temporary partitions.

        This isn’t to suggest newbies should choose NixOS as a first distro, learning NixOS will give you a skill set which will not translate to knowledge about how other Linux OS’s work (because it breaks file system conventions).

        However… If you know how to use NixOS, you’re living a post distro-hopping life, having ascended to godhood, and letting the Arch users know you use Nix BTW.

      • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
        17·
        1 day ago

        Distros based on ArchLinux, that ship breaking changes and expect users to read .pacnew config files and update their own config accordingly (CachyOS)

        You’re absolutely right. The other day I ran into a guy using arch who didn’t know what a tarball was or how to compile software. I was like ‘the fuck?’.

        I should have thought of the newbies who just follow guides and might not know they’ve gotten in over their heads.

      • zebidiah@lemmy.ca
        7·
        1 day ago

        A bunch of shell scripts and Hyprland config masquerading as a distro, made by a white supremacist and used to promote their brand (Omarchy 🤮)

        AntiX, fast, lightweight, and proudly anti-fascist…

        • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2·
          16 hours ago

          AntiX is nothing like Omarchy from my quick look at it. It’s Debian vs Arch (btw) and systemd-free.

    • HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      19 hours ago

      Third top post of all time to r/r/unixporn is a slick hyprland + quickshell rice and they linked their dotfiles + configs. how is a brother to resist trying it?

    • Bubblebath@lemmy.world
      6·
      21 hours ago

      I am a newbie with hyprland. Got introduced to it with a bog video, and because it was keyboard only, it was a good fit for my dell nuggetbook with a poor trackpad. It isn’t my only machine, so I felt safe enough in doing so.

      It has taken a bit of configuring the files, but I have really enjoyed the process of learning.

      So for me it was a way of reviving a machine that was painful to use.

      Also most rice I have seen are hyprland. Probably doesn’t help

      • LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        18 hours ago

        Love some Bog. I wish more Linux enthusiasts would give him a watch, as he even makes me go WTF every now and then, and I’m just a noob myself!

    • highball@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      Yep, then they are going to complain and claim Linux isn’t ready for then entire computing industry; not even grandmas just using a web browser.

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
    401·
    1 day ago

    I am out of the loop, what’s going on with hyperland?

    Is this a continuation of the DHH issues?

        • Jhex@lemmy.world
          14·
          1 day ago

          indeed… I took what I learnt from someone’s dotfile project to build my own minimalist one… took me an afternoon to set up and everything has been rock solid since

          not bad mouthing the dotfiles project I learnt from… they did great but I just did not need that much

    • ne0phyte@feddit.org
      4·
      20 hours ago

      Yup. Been on Niri for a couple of months and it works very well and is super stable.

      Niri seems to have a vision whereas Hyprland folks just seem to push as many features and changes as they can with little consideration.

      • Zangoose@lemmy.world
        51·
        19 hours ago

        I used hyprland on my laptop for about a year and the thing that bothered me the most (aside from the toxic community) was how often I had to rewrite chunks of it after every major update. I’m definitely glad that the niri devs are treating its config stability more seriously.

        • Zangoose@lemmy.world
          2·
          19 hours ago

          I don’t love the way niri handles workspaces across multiple monitors so far but my problems with it are also minor enough that I’m pretty sure I can fix it myself with a script or IPC program if it really starts to bother me

    • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
      31·
      21 hours ago

      I switched to niri recently, I think it’s the best tiling window manager I’ve ever used

    • porl@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 hours ago

      I tried to switch to Mango but it seems to behave weirdly to me with regards to the way focus changes or not when closing window with the keyboard. Not sure how to describe it but as much as I hate the attitude of the Hyprland developer it is the only compositor that behaved the way I expect. I do use the scroller plugin making it a little more like Niri but Niri itself doesn’t behave like I like with multiple monitors and keybinds

      • JakoJakoJako13@piefed.socialEnglish
        4·
        20 hours ago

        I switched around September. The learning curve is higher than Hyprland but not by much. Once you get used to switching layouts on the fly it really open up the workflow. Plus there’s no bullshit. I don’t know any of the devs. There’s no controversy. It’s just a window manager. It’s the closest thing to the pure bliss of BSPWM Wayland has.