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      The one not spinning endlessly in a trapped cycle, yes. That’s the point, the reform side is “moving” in place, never actually moving nor is it capable of moving. The revolution van is capable of moving.

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    Cmon bro, just one more reform, bro. It will fix the system. Bro, i promise. Bro, bro its going to serve us all. This time realy, bro.

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    The AI haters will hate this, but I think AI is gonna provide the push that forces the fundamental changes we want. You can only replace so many people with AI and robots. The theoretical point of zero employees also means zero customers, because nobody has any money to buy anything, so making employees obsolete makes business and profits obsolete. In the real world the system will change long before that point, because it will have to. It might be from food riots and social breakdown, or political movements finally taking hold, I don’t know, but AI will make the profit system eat itself. I’m just not looking forward to the extremely difficult transition period.

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      I want to believe you’re right, but in a world where AI can fully replace human labor, that will likely also apply to the areas of mass surveillance and military suppression.

      Imo, one of the scariest and most frustrating developments in robotics in the past 50 years is the ability to process billions of text and voice conversations, all at once, 24/7. Things really take a different tone when all of a sudden the US Government can find it feasible to listen to all of us, every time.

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      I agree with you that AI will probably replace a lot of white-collar jobs by 2035, which is not that far away, and it will necessitate political change.

      I also consider that UBI (Universal Basic Income) is probably the most natural way forward. It pays a constant amount to each person per month, based on money collected through a wealth tax. It does not have to be implemented all-at-once, but can be gradually introduced. I.e. only provide $200/(person*month) in the beginning, and then continuously scale up as needed.


      The wealth tax is needed simultaneously because the money has to come from somewhere. Printing money anew is not great because it leads to steep inflation.

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      I want to believe you’re right. But everything else so far has just been a gradually applied multiplier on human labor, not a full replacement. Instead of a sudden tipping point, we’d watch each other become destitute one by one, perpetually looking out for only ourselves.

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      They are different. They’re more racist, xenophobic, and (surprisingly, it’s possible) more incompetent.

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        Yes. I just don’t see the point of discussing the finer details cause they’re both scum, any half decent person would give them both a wide berth.

        Edit; I think that they also know exactly what they’re doing.

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    • get on board for revolution
    • read up on theory
    • learn about the mass line
    • do mass line
    • masses demand reform.

    Gotta square this circle. You definitely don’t want to go down the track of being co-opted by democrats. But you absolutely cannot mobilize the masses by just telling them “wait for the revolution”.

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      It takes work, and it takes emotional patience with people. Screaming at the top of our lungs that we must have revolution does nothing. We must be teachers first, show the masses that their attempts at reforms are failing. If they are rational at all, they will listen. If they are not rational, getting angry and scolding them does nothing.

      The western left (and I self-criticize when I say this because it applies to me as well) tends to be very infantile, very impatient, and has relatively low levels of militancy within it. I’m a full on hoxhaist. I have a very specific view on what I want socialism to look like, and what strategies I believe are actually beneficial. That being said, if I spend the bulk of my time engaged in disrespecting other tendencies instead of doing literally anything I will never see the world I want. No bunkers will be built, and I will be sad. ☹️

      The average person just wants to see us do something. How often do communist parties in the west actually organize things themselves as opposed to hopping onto some liberal groups thing? If we can’t even, for example organize our own red aid in a remotely comparable way to what some rando charity is doing, we got a long ass way to go ya know? There is hardly room to bicker and try to dictate peoples lives and views until we’ve proven to be a force of good.

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      theres no such thing as waiting for a revolution

      it has to be built, and its a lot of work.

      luckily if we have a lot of people on board, we can divide the work up and do quite a bunch.

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      There’s gonna be things that can be attended by direct action (union organizing, literacy, breakfast program, that kind of thing) and things that can’t. I think what leftist leaders should do about the things that can only be tackled by national reform is to encourage people to vote for the progressive democrats where it makes sense; worst case, they lose and we learn nothing, but best case they win and when everyone sees them fail to change anything, it makes it a lot easier to sell people on further revolutionary action.