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ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

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ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago
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      parenti-hands "During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

      “If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

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        Where is this excerpt from? Would love to consoom more, it hits the nail on the head…

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      Explain how America has a larger prison population per capita & a higher police murder rate than DPRK.

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        what do we have?

        Debt to your back. Actually way more successful in keeping population in line than all guns ever were (which DPRK don’t even have).

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      That’s the United States brother, you’re admitting they don’t and substituted paranoid fantasies for reality

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          It must be so easy being an anti-communist; you can just make up any bullshit you like and expect people to believe you.

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          The kitten-burners seem to fulfill some urgent need. They give us someone we can clearly and correctly say we’re better than. Their extravagant cruelty makes us feel better about ourselves because we know that we would never do what they have done. They thus function as signposts of depravity, reassuring the rest of us that we’re Not As Bad As them, and thus letting us tell ourselves that this is the same thing as us being good.

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          This is false lmao

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            It is not. Quit drinking the koolaid

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              It’s not lol, find me a source. Also defectors are paid https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39170614.amp

              You can convert that to won

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                The fact that they have to defect to speak to the outside world is all you need to know…

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                  Where’s your source?

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                    Where’s yours

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                  They don’t “have to” defect. Plenty of people don’t!

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              Says you parroting absurd bullshit made up by paid “defectors”. I bet you actually believe they have to push their trains too.

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                  Is the bbc commie propaganda? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39170614.amp

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                    The fact that they’re not allowed to leave NK is all you need to know…

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                  Lol it is a very real thing. You don’t just get to plug your ears and call people delusional when presented with facts that contradict your worldview. You libs are worse than MAGA I swear.

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                    Yea North Korea is a nice place… /s

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        Haha, you think I’m afraid of admitting the US is just as bad as NK? Ridiculous. Where do you think they learned it from?

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          Getting 10 percent of your population killed makes you want to be more like the murderers, rather than dedicating your entire nation to fighting it? Seems like South Korea are the ones who learned from us. Also the US is far far more evil than any existing government.

          Take it from the Korean War memorial, we slaughtered Koreans for capital.

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            It makes me want to dedicate my life to fighting the US, NK, SK, and any other government that exploits its people instead of serving them.

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              Neither Hitler nor Stalin! Neither Washington nor Beijing! The rallying cry of cowards everywhere

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                Only fight the greater evils! Lesser evils should be ignored! The cry of people who don’t understand how greater evils are created.

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                  yah just scream at everyone about everything. thatll fix it

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                  “Good and bad things are both the same and everything is actually evil, which means that by doing nothing and supporting the greatest evil, I’m actually above the struggle entirely”

                  How convenient a worldview for someone who wants to continue doing nothing

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                  Yeah what if the global south gets power and becomes ever worse than the global north!?!?! How terrifying. What country do you live in?

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                    I live in the US, so I know first hand how having faith in anyone in a position of power will come back to bite you.

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              I think you’re leaving out some countries in that list lol

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