• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    1 hour ago

    The bullshit about it being “first pioneered by the soviets”. Stafford Beer wasn’t a Soviet.

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        34 minutes ago

        Where exactly does it state in that article that the USSR applied cybernetig principles in managing systems of production and management?

        FFS, how can someone be so arrogant with so much stiched together half-knowledge? Seriously, check out the General Intellect Unit podcast, if you’re actually interested, but don’t act so smug, stating bullshit on things where you only skimmed the wikipedia page. It’s done by (anti-authoritarian) Marxists, if that helps.

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          25 minutes ago

          The soviet union began tinkering with the ideas of cybernetics, though they never managed to fully implement it. Cybersyn went farther, but it wasn’t the first attempt. Secondly, I have no idea what you mean by “anti-authoritarian Marxists,” Marxists analyze authority by its class character and not as something that can be universally opposed.

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            17 minutes ago

            I know you have trouble grasping the concept of authority. That’s like… your whole deal. Just imagine being a Marxist without all the vanguard party and replacing the bourgeoisie with a class of bureaucrats bullshit.

            Cybersyn can’t have been centrally planned btw, as central planning violates Ashby’s Law of Requisite Variety.