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I’m not the one that needs the higher ground here, so it’s pointless to say I’m trying to take the higher ground. I’m not the one freebooting content, OC or not. I always properly link posts, not only to give credit for creating or finding the content, but also so that people know there is more discussion elsewhere, including those with screen readers. I also only post from one account, so that people can block my posts if they please. You rapidly switch between accounts, further masking your freebooting behaviors. I mention this not to take the high ground, but to show you that it’s possible and easy to simply provide links in your reposts. I don’t even really care that you repost, I care more about how you’re reposting, which is probably the worst, most user-unfriendly way of doing it that I’ve seen since reddit.

I didn’t dodge it. There are comments in my link that you continue to ignore. I’m not going to do the reading for you, especially since I already went back and provided you the link which you clearly visited. Because of your laziness or ignorance of the fact that Lemmy’s cross post functionality is buggy at best, it looks like you’re the only one posting to those users. You know what would fix the weird image linking issue? Properly attributing your cross post. It’s not hard, it’s not difficult, and it’s not time consuming. It’s only difficult if you’re reposting hundreds of posts like a spam network, which is exactly what you seem like to users that don’t know any better.

1. You attribute it, but you don’t link to the original post. This is the entire problem. I know, because you’ve done it to me. I had no idea until I literally looked up my username one day, and saw a post from you “attributing” it to me. I had no clue that this was posted, and missed out on providing explanations. Further, people thanked you for the post, not the original author. You didn’t reply to them to say you’re welcome, but you also didn’t reply to them saying that it was another user’s OC. I honestly don’t give a fuck about you attributing me for my personal case, but it’s mind boggling that you do not see how it could rub someone the wrong way. I only spoke up about it once you did it for the hundredth time on your 14th account, because it’s fucking annoying to see.
2. Yes, but you don’t connect conversations about these articles together properly for those with apps that do not properly load your cross post. Further, these freebooted cross posts vastly outnumber the articles you find on your own. It would be one thing if you did what most people posting do, and use an RSS feed to post articles, and just happened to post the same article as someone else. But no, roughly 5 minutes after someone posts the article, you post it, because it came up in your feed. This is exactly the issue. I would block you, but you’ll just pop up somewhere else and then claim that you “only” use 5 accounts in a failing effort to boost smaller instances. So, I’d rather comment with the screenshots of your million accounts every time you post the bullshit copypasta about why you “crosspost” ml content (you should probably change that copypasta to say “why I freeboot ML content”, which would be accurate to what you actually do. The ironic thing there is that every time you mention ML in any fashion, it defeats the purpose of not linking there in the first place. Oh, also, feel free to block me. But good luck, since you’ve got a few dozen accounts. I’ll still comment the same since I’m not going to even bother blocking you.
3. Some people link back to where they found it, and that’s good. You don’t even bother posting where you found it when it’s on the fediverse, and that’s bad. There’s a difference, no matter how you try to pretend there isn’t. You’re hurting the few users on the fediverse when you do that.
4. I don’t need to prove anything, you just never mention it with the hopes that no one will notice and that works for you 95% of the time. Nothing to prove when no one notices. But when people do notice, like in this thread, I’ll happily show them just how many accounts you’ve created, as stated previously. Also, you seriously want me to go through your dozens of accounts with thousands of posts to “prove” this to you? Probably by design, you make that very difficult to do.

Why are you just copy and pasting the same comment now? You don’t need to actually spam me. I’m only going to reply to one of these comments.

When this was last brought up to you, two people said it wasn’t working for their apps: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/15393162

You ignored them, conveniently. I can also attest that it doesn’t show for Boost a lot of the time, especially when you repost memes that are just images. And before you say it, no, it’s not because I’m defederated with those instances - Lemmy.today isn’t defederated with a single instance. And even if that weren’t the case, you should still link back to the original post to give proper credit, to at least let users know it wasn’t your content.

You’re not adding friction. You’re basically a freebooter. You don’t care about giving people credit, you appear to want the credit. I don’t understand why this is such a difficult concept for you to understand when multiple people have told you that the cross post button doesn’t appear for them. Probably because you’d rather claim the content as your own with no acknowledgment that it was sourced from someone else. You seem to only be doing it because it adds friction for you: you can’t stand to give a post five seconds of your time because you have to freeboot content as fast as possible, for god knows why. You’d rather look like a spam network than ever give people links to the original post.

And yes, it does do nesting of posts. Because it is working as intended. It clearly shows that you weren’t the original author. But no, you’d rather mask that as much as you can get away with. You know what I do when I cross post something multiple times? I un-nest it once if it’s nested twice. It’s literally that easy. Oh no… you have to delete a few “>”!! That’s so hard for you, I’m so sorry.

I don’t care if you hate ML. I hate ML as an instance too. However, I’m not about to steal content from ML users just because I hate the ML admins. You are defeating the purpose of federation and feed curation, and basically acting like a reddit poweruser. You want to put your motivations and ideals onto others, without them even knowing that you’re doing it. Not only are you freebooting, you’re masking your behavior and usually not acknowledging that the post isn’t yours in the comments.

I’m unfortunately going to repeat myself twice in this post (since you did), these do not work in all frontends so it looks like you’re just stealing content. Posting the link directly in the post will always work, 100%. A link to the original author is not the same as a link to the original post, and cross post functionality in Lemmy is buggy at best.

If your problem is linking to ML, then you are defeating the point by your own logic, since according to you, all Lemmy frontends automatically add the cross post link to ML to your posts. You just shouldn’t rip posts from ML if you have a problem with merely linking to the OP and giving the original author proper credit.

It makes it worse if you’re actually using Boost to do these reposts, because that means that you’re actively stripping the automatic cross post link out.

As has been explained to you before by me and many, many others: this functionality does not always work as expected, and a bunch of apps are missing it entirely. That is the reality.

Do you know what would always work?

A link to the OP directly in the post. Just like you did for the author, but for the actual post. If you’re using Boost, why are you removing the cross post text that is automatically included for this very reason? It really makes it seem like you just want to take others posts and claim them as your own.

This would also work for the meme reposts you do, by the way.

Wanna see shady?

It’s pretty depressing that you downvote those who do what you fail to do: link to the original post instead of basically stealing their content. It is very confusing to me why this is so difficult to understand and fix, it’s literally built in to most apps, such as boost.

Yet, you downvote the people who rightfully link to the OP. And no, linking the author (like you’ve done with one of my posts in the past) does not count. I didn’t know that you stole reposted one of my posts until months later, for example.

They never properly cross post content. Sometimes they’ll add the author of the post, but it would be much better to properly link to the original post. I’ve tried and failed to explain this to them in the past. This, along with their dozens of accounts, makes them seem like a spam network that steals content from other users. It’s giving reddit karma farming, except here karma isn’t supposed to matter. Note that I don’t think they are a spam network, but this user behaves like one and refuses to ever make changes to the way they post.

They claim to be “supporting smaller instances” simply by posting with accounts from said instances, even though most people don’t care to look at instances of users. In reality, they’re giving these instances a bad reputation since they look like they’re supporting a spammer.

Every time this is brought up, they post the same BS spoiler that doesn’t ever acknowledge the root of their distasteful behavior, and downvote those who call them out. It’s super fucking annoying.

Kate lets me open as many windows as I want. I’ve never had that issue before, when did you last try it?

I use Kate pretty much the same way I used Notepad++, except I think I like Kate better since it clicks with my brain. It also probably(?) has more features.

just been cycling through them over and over again, if someone wanted to block them for curation, they should not have had a problem to do so by now. And I do have plenty that I don’t post from for comm making.

It’s good that you’ve narrowed it down, but cycling through them will continue to cause people to think you’re somehow a spam network.

You’d be surprised, Ive definitely had people ask me about instances that I’ve posted from. Especially funnier named ones like toast.ooo

I’m not asking for hard data, to be clear, but I would still argue that for the amount of people that see your posts (a lot, since you post a lot), the amount of people asking you questions about your instances is tiny. Most users don’t even comment, so the math there doesn’t really add up.

A big reason a crosspost won’t show, is if the other post is on a comm that isn’t federated with your instance or hasn’t pulled that specific post yet

But leaving a link to the original post would always show. Just like boost automatically does. You can see an example in this post: https://infosec.pub/post/40397999

basically by interconnecting instances I mean I’m encountering comms that the instance hasn’t federated with yet because nobody has subscribed from their instance to it. And nobody on that instance can see content from that comm until someone subscribes to it

I mean, that’s fine, but you don’t need to post from the account do to that. It doesn’t even need to be named with your username since you’d never post with it to begin with. It’s already an invisible action. So again, it’s not necessary to make your username seemingly associated with negative views such as spam networks or ban evasion to help instances with this. The cons still outweigh the pros.

Yea, but a big difference is, none of my accounts are actually banned from anywhere

It’s a low bar, to be honest.

I agree with you regarding Lund, however you aren’t floating these instances around in a positive way. A positive way would be much more organic and ideally you’d only post from one to really give it the positive energy it might deserve.

To be very clear here, I did not call you a spam network or spammer nor did I intend to do so. I said that it’s what your accounts look like at first glance to users that don’t know who you are. Lividweasel is saying this very thing, that they thought you were a spammer of some kind at first. This, and your unintended side effect of making Lemmy more challenging to curate, is really the main thing I’ve mentioned time and time again. I’m glad you’re at least willing to acknowledge that it’s making it more difficult for users to curate their feeds.

I do not agree that you’re boosting other instances simply by posting from them, and I don’t think the side effect you’re creating is worth the price. Further, I would argue that most users typically do not pay attention to the instance a user is from, especially when simply upvoting a post.

I also still don’t understand why you have to use the accounts you create communities with. Why not pick a primary and only post with that account? It would eliminate the “side effect” if you did that one simple thing.

The cross posts do not show properly in my case, only sometimes do I see them on your posts. Luckily, clients like Boost add a link to their original post when I cross post. It makes the cross post always show. You can see how buggy Lemmy is regarding baked in cross post links, since almost everyone above is saying that they can’t see that in their app. Why not add your own baked in link so that everyone can see that it’s a cross post?

What do you mean “better interconnecting smaller instances”? If it’s through cross posting, I doubt it, seeing as you don’t include the cross post link for maximum effect.

I also agree with lividweasel in that I grew to have a negative view on your army of accounts. It’s not necessarily your posts, but rather the way you post with dozens of accounts. Not saying that’s deserved, but if it happened to two of us, how many others get the same views? That can easily be fixed by simply posting from one account, instead of seeming like a spam network or ban evader. The only other user that I’ve seen do this type of thing is Monk, and I know your views of him.

Why use so many accounts? Don’t give me the “I’m supporting smaller instances” take. It’s not supporting smaller instances when you make them look like they’re part of your spam network. If it’s to create communities on them, why not just post to them specifically? Why post to one of the larger instances with a million accounts?

It only serves to make it look like you’re a spam network while also making it next to impossible to block your posts. Users will try to block you, think they’ve successfully curated their feeds, only to have you turn up again. It’s not a great Lemmy experience.

It also is not a good look to strip any reference to the OP, cross posts exist for a reason. It just makes it look like you’re stealing people’s posts and trying to make them your own.

Most users do not pay attention to which instance someone is on, only a vocal minority seem to care. Even less will actually join an instance from just seeing it, as they’re likely already on an instance in the first place.

So once again, it just makes it impossible for people to curate their feeds. It makes you look like a spam bot, especially with how rapidly you repost things. And the amount of accounts with the same name really make you look like a spam operation.

It does far more harm than good in my opinion, and I actively avoid upvoting any of your posts because of that. If you just created the placeholder accounts and didn’t post with them, I wouldn’t feel this way.

You seriously don’t see how crazy the screenshots above look?

But why post with a million different accounts? That is the problem here. It’s not about supporting small instances when you use these accounts to post to huge instances like lemmy.world (which you do frequently). You could just create an account on a smaller instance, create the community with it, and never use it to post to a big instance.

You can do the same for the “imposter” problem you bring up, although I’m not convinced it’s really a problem. I honestly wouldn’t give a shit if someone used my handle on another instance - I only use this handle on Lemmy and no where else. If someone really started being a shitty person with my handle on another instance, I would just say that it’s not me and I have no idea who they are and leave it at that.

Like this is just crazy, man, I don’t know what else to say:

But why use a million accounts to do that? You can use one, and then people will actually be able to curate their feeds accordingly.

AerynOS and Chimera Linux, to save you a click.

Also I haven’t seen this cm0002 alt yet, gunna tag it. I have a strong dislike of what this user does (basically cross posting without linking back to the original, usually minutes after something is posted. It would be one thing if they just happened to post the same article as someone, but they frequently post the same article minutes after someone else). I guess it’s not really a big deal, but it makes it difficult to block them when they have a million accounts on a bunch of different instances. This is probably a bad example since it doesn’t seem to be posted anywhere else, but that makes it even more annoying in my opinion.

It hasn’t existed that long.

I prefer my PC off when I’m not using it, that way it’s encrypted.

We test in production, silly.