So do you trust cell towers more, or just stay offline when out and about?

In a scripting language, is there an advantage to no garbage collection? (I honestly don’t know)

Someone else also pointed out to me, when I made a similar suggestion, that ability to partially fail but keep going is desirable in a web context. I don’t know, maybe there’s some way to make Rust do that more automatically than C. Python seems the be the standard for general-purpose scripting, which is why I mentioned it.

Invent a new internet where you can script pages directly in Python or TypeScript.

Otherwise, you get to enjoy a silly toy language from the 90’s.

So you don’t want to go against the jerk, okay.

Thanks?

Agreed. The point being that people aren’t really upset about whether it’s art or not. They’re mad about money.

And that’s not exactly dumb either, making bread is important. It’d just be nice if it was admitted to.

AI being appropriated for neural nets which might even do things unrelated to what we think of as intelligence is annoying, I’ll give you that.

What art is is kind of a huge can of worms, though. In any case, it’s pretty clear they can satisfy potential clients a lot better than human digital artists, though, and that’s where at least part of the butthurt comes from.

It was, but doesn’t that seem shortsighted now? When there’s a change it’s usually bad for someone, but no change since the 1700’s would definitely be bad, even if there’s a steady two pence or whatever to be made weaving.

Sitting in 2025, we can identify a whole lot that was wrong with the world and conditions of labourers (including literal slaves) then. It seems kind of odd to blame technology for them, at least directly. But, that’s where the luddites turned their anger, and Lemmy seems to slide into doing the same thing - although there’s a lot of overlap with valid skepticism about things people claim AI do, that it actually can’t.

If we did what they wanted, I couldn’t afford the clothes I’m wearing. Or probably a lot of other things - shit tons has improved since the late 1700’s.

Sure, there’s less weaver jobs now, and there will be less digital artist jobs in the future. Arguably, the past few centuries have shown that if there’s other things that we can do instead, it’s still for the best. (If there’s not, a whole new conversation opens up)

Yes, it’s not a good argument totally unsupported. You can live in a society and still criticise it, if there’s no reasonable choice to do otherwise.

The thing is, I really like not having to weave my own clothes, or do whatever trade was made obsolete by all the technologies since. I’m guessing OP does too, and there’s no good reason to place a cutoff on that at 2020.

If OP thought things would genuinely be better if we went back to medieval tech, this would be a different, and actually much more interesting conversation. As it is, they just didn’t know the history.

No. The luddites were against the move away from manual weaving, and literally did break into factories to smash looms.

This person on the internet in hemp rags they grew themselves.

Because Lemmy is full smash-the-looms luddite about AI art.

Shut up and take my venture capital money! And maybe 2/3 of the whole market cap in stock options! /s

Isn’t this basically an implementation of spaghetti sort? I’ve seriously taken the delay approach before in distributed memory situations.

Thank you, yes I do. And like I said in OP it seems to be crapping out pretty good at it’s current level of ability - maybe it’s not a Ponzi scheme, but it is a giant overvalued bubble.

The internet can’t hurt you, you don’t have to lie to us. And it kinda pisses me off when people do anyway, because it makes it worse for everyone.

Ah yes, Lemmy, beloved by politicians. /s

Any comments on how you attempted to lie to us all? Just to win an internet argument?

It is. It’s one that has hidden layers, as opposed to a shallow neural net which does not. Shallow neural nets aren’t really a thing anymore, so it’s usually omitted, but historically things like the perceptron go back further, and they’re conceptually simpler to update during training.

And that paper’s name? Albert Einstein. I can’t find anything on Weizenbaum and Turing authoring together. Weizenbaum seems to have written mostly prose and code, even - he’s not really thought of for his mathematical innovations, although obviously math was his original field.

Back in the 50’s people thought conventional algorithms, like everybody here has worked with, were going to reach human intelligence. They could play chess, and chess is smart guy stuff, so obviously recognising a bird should be easy, right? Well, they figured out that wasn’t right, and so began the first AI winter.

The tech of deep neural nets is in fact fairly new. Like, arguably it didn’t become a thing until the Cold War was ending, although there were a lot of precursors, and it kind of arrived gradually.

Hmm. I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Do you have a link?