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If the defense for a NK-style society is that it “at least benefits the working class” I suppose even trickle-down isn’t that bad… whether class exists as a concept or not means nothing if you have to live like in NK…

The truth is that as long as you have a structure that allows a group of people to control and steer society - be it a “Proletarian dictatorship designed to benefit the workers” or otherwise - those people are gonna shape it in a way where it benefits themselves. It’s a reasonable assessment that the main issue of the Soviet Union was Stalin’s insanity and forcing certain policies (collectivisation) too fast, but the truth of the matter is that a new class simply emerged: the political, the ones that might not be traditionally rich but benefit in other ways. The working class was never the main beneficiary of the Soviet Union… at the end of a day a dictatorship is just a dictatorship and it’s never for the people. I’m in no way against socialism or enacting various socialist or socialist-adjacent fiscal policies but that doesn’t mean that all just magically become good when the working class dubiously “benefits”.

And how much has those same parameters improved in capitalist societies? China didn’t become rich and influential until they started transitioning into s capitalist class society. No shit that working class conditions improved compared to (almost) literally being serfs

And at what point is it no longer a “dictatorship of the proletariat”? Do you really think, say, the Soviet leaders were looking out “for the proletariat”? Is Kim Jong-Un doing so because the country’s official name contains the word “people”?

What are you even mad about? Or are you just trying to be cool and edgy? Russia is an exploitative, genocidal, imperialistic, racist colonial empire whether you like it or not ;)

While it’s so exciting to see idiots simping for Russia. Keep telling yourself they’re not a colonial shit state if you please.

Please do tell me how Russia, as the direct successor state of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union - having exploited, resettled, and genocided millions of people from hundreds of different ethnicities - should NOT be consider a colonial state. You think Slavs are native to Sakhalin or something?

Through conquest and colonial exploits though. That’s like saying Macron is South American because French Guiana exists. Putin was born and raised in St Petersburg; a historically Finnic territory if anything

Russia is a European country at its core controlling a vast portion of Asia through invasion and colonial exploits. France is also located in the Pacific, North America, South America, Africa, but no one would claim that it’s not a European nation.

Don’t you mean ex-girlfriend?

“Whoever knows what is right but doesn’t do it is sinning. So then, if we do not do the good we know we should do, we are guilty of sin”.

Just to quote the Bible that the Republicans love so much

I think this is way too narrow. Following Marx? For sure, you’re right… but if you look at “Liberalism” - which can span anything from “taxes and government are literal hell” to “we support LGBT rights” - and “Conservatism” - which can span anything from Angela Merkel to Trump to follow-my-millenia-old-book-by-the-letter-or-I-will-murder-you - the word “Socialism” in the modern age can definitely contain nuances as well. For instance the main centre-left party in Denmark is called the “Social Democrats” then right to the left of it you have the “Socialist People’s Party” - which is far less revolutionary than it sounds - and then you have a few other parties, including one identifying as “Communist” but which doesn’t even really fight for any kind of revolution or the total elimination of class but recognises the requirement for collaboration and compromising when in power.