LostWanderer

This is old news, as the optional ML/AI components have been added to the installer as an opt in, thankfully they understand that there aren’t a lot of people that want LLM garbage. However, it still rubs me the wrong way that they’re playing with the tools that are used to parasitize open source projects and even spam them with slop.

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I changed the wording to some haters. As there is some hate, but, anything with a critical mass is going to attract some haters.

Definitely some, I over-exaggerate, I’ve seen some concentrated hate in certain places for GNOME.

Yeah, tribalism does happen in a lot of tech related spaces in addition to anywhere else in life. I think that GNOME devs and System76 will remain separate FOSS tribes that can never know peace between them. In a lot of cases, I feel that System76 started the hostility. However, GNOME seems fairly entrenched in their own ideas. I don’t find GNOME bad by any means, it’s just a REALLY opinionated DE that I can tolerate in little doses. I much prefer KDE for the flexibility it grants without installing a lot of extensions.

Sure, buddy, all the love for CCP, Vladimir Putin, Mao Zedong is slander…HexBear is basically lemmy.ml with a mask on. That has a similar issue of somewhat sane topic based communities with all the Authoritarian bootlicking in different places. The second you slander any of these revered authoritarian bully in their subs (usually in relevant places like news), you’re reported and face banning.

The fact this came from hexbear.net immediately raises some mental alarms in my head. So, before forming an opinion on this matter…I read the GNOME blog post and processed the presented information before deciding: hexshitpost or no. I found the blog post to ultimately be built on a strong foundation of knowledge/sources; written in a neutral and non-combative tone that calls out System76 without being incendiary or unnecessarily cruel. The case being lain out about System76’s many incidents of spreading harmful misinformation about GNOME makes me understand why GNOME does have some haters these days in the Linux space…

It’s curious that instead of polishing COSMIC before pushing it out in the world, they released a broken version of what should’ve been something cool! I agree, perhaps working with GNOME and KDE would’ve been better if System76 wasn’t going to meaningfully invest in COSMIC’s stability before release. I’m sure they’ll fix it in post launch updates. From my brief experience with COSMIC, it did have the bones for a good DE, however, the polish was lacking. It made me sad and switch to Bazzite.

Mmm, Bazzite is certainly user-friendlier, kinda like SteamOS is (the only Arch based thing I feel is user-friendlier).

Bazzite is nice, I’m running it at the moment. The gaming customizations are nice and having the latest kernel stable+NVIDIA open drivers is swell. You can even use Distroshelf (to emulate a distro) and App pass through to install apps that don’t have a Flatpak version. Or package layering, which is needed for VPNs like Mullvad to work properly; that’s also pretty easy to manage, so I never feel like I don’t have access to software. Too bad stock Fedora cannot be arsed to make NVIDIA drivers brain dead easy at the time of installation.

Yeah, it does depend on the user, like I replied to another person. You have to figure out the needs of the user and adapt accordingly. For some, their needs are far less complex and all of their software would be on Flathub. So package layering is a situation problem, I just got unlucky with 3 out of the several programs that I use. Which is why I’d mention it, as edge cases are always a thing.

Eh, could, but I like the layering. Realistically, it’s just three apps and everything else has a Flatpak version. I might experiment with using DistroShelf for the apps that don’t actually need to be layered. Mullvad VPN is the only app I use that needs to be layered.

Edit: I did it, installed Ubuntu into a box in DistroShelf, and installed Bibisco and Filen in that Ubuntu Box. It was easy, and I removed those layered apps from Bazzite. Eh, I might still be a lazy bastard, at least I can do that little amount of work. LMAO

Yeah, it is understanding the user and trying to give them recommends that would suit their technical ability and desire to learn. As using Linux (any distro) requires varying degrees of knowledge, I often ask people what they do with their computer and if they are fairly comfortable with technical things before making a recommend. I also firmly remind them they need to learn the basics, as it will often save them a lot of trouble!

Atomic distros have a set-back of having to deal with Package Layering in the case of those that aren’t found on Flathub. That’s a bit outside of the wheelhouse of a non-tech savvy person. You or I could easily deal with package layering, as it’s important to remove them before a major system update…We’d remember to do that before applying such an upgrade. They might not, leading to frustration. I think Linux Mint, ZorinOS, or even just Ubuntu would be better.

Still, I do use Bazzite, as I am comfortable with the package layering and understand mostly how atomic distros work.

It’s certainly a surprising addition to the circle of distros…Reminds me TOO much of Windows and that’s a big negative for me. However, for someone else this would be a pathway towards escaping Microsoft that has gotten lobotomized by their lust for AI.

Yikes, honestly if I were using rsyslog, I’d figure out how to switch to another utility that would provide it without any AI implemented in the human teams dev processes.

While I would never use a phone any smaller than 6.3 inches, I understand that others have differing needs than myself. Having a variety of devices to suit the needs of potential customers is a sound strategy. In the future, I want to see different OS choices that aren’t just either stock Android; different ROMs of Android as an option to choose from would be nice!

Yikes, the AI computer thing gives me the ick; however, it seems that they are being a bit less nonsense with a smartphone. Though, given the market trends, it will be a tough space to break into because there are so many established brands. However, if Jolla can put their whole ass into this and make it privacy focused and consumer friendly Linux smartphone…They might stand a chance. Also, I hope they also make a larger screened device, I am tired of the smaller 6.3 inch screens. I’d love for them to make a 6.7 inch screen phone (also make it international version with a lot of carrier compatibility for maximum adoption potential).

I’ve looked at their Sailfish OS and honestly wished it were chosen by corporations more often…As the overall design seems quite nice, while being approachable. You are allowed to be as hands off or as hands on as you’d like to be with getting into the guts of this OS.

This is why I always have a backup USB of another distro if there is an issue that is truly vexing to solve through normal means.

Some machine learning isn’t inherently harmful. The issue is when techbros go to the extremes that they have with “AI” and the level of damage they’ve done; implanting the idea of replacing creatives with their slop generating hallucination engines, compromising systems with inherently insecure “AI” tools. In most cases, a user isn’t given the option to refuse these tools (as corps are desperate for people to use these tools). Using stolen data to train their “AI”, extreme power and water usage per prompt honestly disgusts me in a visceral way. It’s not even profitable, which confuses me as to why they’d try to desperately shill this tech swill.

Eh, Harper does seem like it is powered by machine learning, nothing inherently malicious though. Seems like a lot of the rules were set by those with an understanding of grammar and spelling.