This is the first time in my adult life that I’ve even considered an invasion to be in any way beneficial

Liberals oppose every war but the current one.

But the Iranians around me are telling me

They’re expats or n generations removed. They’re not in Iran, don’t know what’s really going on there and don’t speak for those who are and do.

Please tell me what you think the international community should be doing?

The international community:

After Russia it’s already the most sanctioned country in the world, and those sanctions have contributed to the discontent that fuels these protests.

Correct, and that’s exactly why the “international community” shouldn’t be imposing illegal sanctions in the first place. They’re not imposing collective punishment on the Iranian people out of the goodness of their hearts. They care about Iranians exactly as much as they care about Palestinians, namely: not a rat’s ass. Despite the bleeding heart rhetoric, the sanctions are for furthering imperialist interests, predominantly those of the US and Israel. They want regime change that vassalizes Iran.

Jeffrey Sachs: Engineering Iran’s Unrest

It’s certainly not diplomacy and it’s not coercion. It is war conducted by economic means, all designed to produce an economic crisis and social unrest leading to a fall of the government.

You’re not listening to the people. You’re listening to comprador plants.

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You avoid acknowledging the grassroots movement in Iran

You misspelled “astroturf.”

The Brownshiirts weren’t cops, either, but that didn’t stop them from murdering people.

McSweeney’s: ICE Is Nothing Like the Brownshirts, Because the Brownshirts Actually Identified Themselves

Let’s say it again: ICE is nothing like the Brownshirts. One was an open paramilitary wing of an openly fascist political party, the other is an unaccountable government force operating without clear uniforms, identification, or transparency… for an openly fascist political party. There are SOME similarities between them, that’s true, but ICE is more like… well, we don’t really have a word for it in English. They are like… a government-sanctioned organization that operates without uniforms, masks its identity, infiltrates civilian spaces, and detains people without oversight, like some sort of… secretive… police-like thing.

But just because there isn’t a name for something like that does not give you the right to call ICE agents Brownshirts. That’d be like calling asbestos a “toxin.” Yeah, both will kill you, but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

Someone reported this post as “Breaks community rules,” too.

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Reason: This anti-American trend in non-political communities needs to stop. Political content outside of political channels sucks in general.

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Nazi schmazi

Those leopards would never eat my face. After all, I’m white.

This is how I know we’re the most propagandized people in the world. We live on the Death Star and think it’s the Love Boat.

You can tell it’s a Rogue-like because of the way it is.

Tibetans were invaded by force, displaced, hate China and want their country back.

Tibetans were not displaced. They’re still there. What got displaced was a feudal theocratic dynasty. Of course they want their country back: they miss ruling over desperate, illiterate feudal serfs.

Many other nations draw important food and income from the area and China is kicking them out to starve.

Several countries have overlapping claims, but for some reason Westerners are only interested in China’s claims, because Western media has one specific narrative it wants to tell. Maybe Westerners should mind their own business and let countries on the other side of the world sort out their own disputes.

Taiwan claims to be an independent nation ready to resist China

And yet only a dozen UN member states recognize it as an independent state.

I’d love to know which Taiwanese say that.

Pretty much all of them? It’s even in the ROC’s constitution. Both the ROC and the PRC claim all of China, including the island of Formosa.

What’s your background here?

My background is anti-imperialism.

• Tibet has been part of China for several centuries.
• So weird that China would claim territory off its own southern coast in a sea named after it.
• Taiwan is already part of China, as even the Taiwanese will tell you.

oh shit the memes have been seized oh god oh fuck

Also, you made a German admin seek succor at the Nazi bar.

• Or neither
• Or one
• Or the other
• Next time make an actual point instead of blurting out thought-terminating clichés

I only knew of the anti-piracy base on the coast of Djibouti.

If you go against it you have reprogramming training classes.

No, that’s not a thing.

We even have Chinese police stations here in Canada

No, you don’t. That’s not a real thing, either. You’re just regurgitating Cold War II propaganda nonsense you saw on TV.

This is not me reading it on the web, this is coworkers at the house when it happens to their room mates.

Why are you making shit up? At this point I think you made the company up, too.

It woukd seem you are being paid to promote China propaganda, or you are severely deluded to what goes on there.

I think you’re projecting. Why are you peddling anti-China lies for free?

A survey of citizens that know they cannot speak ll without retribution to them or their family, will always look positive.

During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

Please use some critical thinking here.

I am. They lead me to believe you’re full of shit.

Double genocide theory is bullshit, it’s a form of Holocaust trivialization, and it came from—guess where—the Baltics, presumably from Baltic fascists to deflect from their own crimes.

The theory first gained popularity in Lithuania after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, particularly in discussions about the Holocaust in Lithuania.

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