Oh for sure. Kind of forgot about that.

I usually build my own PCs, or I buy certified refurbished systems from eBay, so I usually don’t pay the Windows tax(or its baked in).

But definitely a good option to get something for cheaper, I do wish more systems had a Linux or no OS option.

And even if I plan to use Windows on a system, I usually re-install Windows anyway. Can’t be too careful with what has already been installed on something.

And to clarify, it’s pretty much only Ubuntu that is the Linux option with the standard SI’s. And I’m pretty sure it’s standard Ubuntu with gnome, not Kubuntu or being able to select a different DE, etc.

So it’s an option…but not something I’d seek out from Dell or HP specifically.

I also had the same experience with Mint having outdated packages. And at that time I was a Linux noob so I figured I’d just wait until Mint updated their shit.

Well days turned into weeks and then about 3 months later, still with no updates from Mint, I jumped ship to Fedora. Which Fedora was nice but then I hopped to Kubuntu and now I’m on CachyOS.

I see all of this Mint hype and while I do love Cinnamon; I would never put Mint on my own devices going forward. It’s definitely a distro I would put on my mom’s laptop or a grandparent’s device. But their release schedule is abhorrent.

Conflating 1% of Linux users also being 1% of revenue is pretty asinine lol

The regular average joe isn’t going to switch on their own. The average person sees Windows and MacBook as their two options for a laptop.

Also, Linux isn’t a replacement for Windows. It’s its own thing, with its own issues but also advantages.

And most young people don’t have their own computers growing up anymore, it’s all phones and tablets and in the USA apple has won that race.