I think the main barriers are context length (useful context. GPT-4o has “128k context” but it’s mostly sensitive to the beginning and end of the context and blurry in the middle. This is consistent with other LLMs), and just data not really existing. How many large scale, well written, well maintained projects are really out there? Orders of magnitude less than there are examples of “how to split a string in bash” or “how to set up validation in spring boot”. We might “get there”, but it’ll take a whole lot of well written projects first, written by real humans, maybe with the help of AI here and there. Unless, that is, we build it with the ability to somehow learn and understand faster than humans.
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jcg@halubilo.socialto
Programmer Humor@lemmy.ml•They're trying to normalize calling vibe coding a "programming paradigm," don't let them.
2·8 months agoNot what I’d have expected. In my company it’s mostly higher ups (suits) pushing the stuff and workers begrudgingly implementing it.
jcg@halubilo.socialto
Programmer Humor@lemmy.ml•They're trying to normalize calling vibe coding a "programming paradigm," don't let them.
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jcg@halubilo.socialto
Programmer Humor@lemmy.ml•They're trying to normalize calling vibe coding a "programming paradigm," don't let them.
2·9 months agoHow high up in the corporate ladder are they?
jcg@halubilo.socialto
Programmer Humor@lemmy.ml•They're trying to normalize calling vibe coding a "programming paradigm," don't let them.
7·9 months agoAs a former script kiddie myself I think it’s not much different from how I used to blindly copy and paste code snippets from tutorials. Well, environmental impact aside. Those who have the drive and genuine interest will actually come to learn things properly. Those who don’t should stay tf out of production code, which is why we genuinely shouldn’t let “vibe coding” be legitimized.
We declare children as dependents legally, don’t we?
I don’t mind a whoops somebody fucked right up error message if you let me click a button for more details. Or at the very least, give me a reference number I can tell somebody about. Some “software companies” don’t even properly log things on their end so nobody can solve shit.


I think the question of fair use is separate from the question of piracy, and probably separate from the question of intellectual property in general. Even if we were to protect fair use, that doesn’t make it legal to wholesale copy books. Individual piracy from people who can’t really afford it is one thing and largely harmless, even a net good. I know people who only started reading books from particular authors because they pirated one copy and bought others. That’s very different from a company downloading entire libraries of books without paying. Shifting the question from piracy to fair use is just another way of making you think of the wrong question.
I’d like to live in a world that doesn’t gatekeep property. But we live in a world where artists aren’t paid for their work directly, and in that world intellectual property is necessary.