The catarrhine who invented a perpetual motion machine, by dreaming at night and devouring its own dreams through the day.
The difference between both links is huge - one shows 7%, another 73%. Since I have no idea which is more reliable, nor I think this difference is due to time (the FF link is from 2022), let’s go with your link instead.
73% Wayland means 27% X11. It’s still a lot; not a big problem in KDE’s case, since its developers are rather emphatic on still maintaining the X11 session. Can’t say the same about GNOME.
And the guy in question is, simply put, a nutjob.
I don’t even disagree with the idea of ditching X11. My criticism is timing; statistics like this show 90% X usage, either instead or alongside Wayland; it’s clear most users still use X11, in one form or another. It’s like making a street cars only when most people still use horse chariots.
For someone who has not used Gnome in 14+ years you sure seem to know a lot about it…
I ditched GNOME in 3.0 times. And I still gave it a second try, a third, even a fourth. And my system has GNOME (and KDE, and Xfce…) applications, so certain patterns are visible even in everyday usage. And I fuck around with virtual machines to find out about random stuff, including DEs that I ditched (like GNOME and KDE) or I never used directly in my machine (like Elementary).
So don’t assume “ditched it = ignorant about it”.
X11 has effectively already been deprecated for years, seeing little to no development on it.
O rly. And the point still stands: GNOME has a tendency to drop support to older software before the newer one is ready.
Unless you want to claim Wayland reached parity with X11, and there’s totally no reason people might want to stick with X11 instead.
And still, there are SEVERAL Long Term Support distros out there that will support X11 for the coming years.
This does not address what I said.
Please stop pretending that stuff will start breaking. It will not.
That is not what I said.
*Yawn* Given that
It’s safe to disregard you as meaningless noise, so I ain’t wasting my time further with you.
[inb4 people discussing the semantics of “ditch”]
Odds are they’re doing the same thing only in theory. In practice, the picture changes - typically the KDE devs are far more willing to maintain old and marginal features and/or support benefiting only a small chunk of the userbase. While the GNOME devs are way more likely to ditch it, babble something about their design vision, then try to convince the user “ackshyually you don’t need it”.
(A major exception is perhaps accessibility, mentioned in the text. It isn’t just the Wayland devs worried about it, but also the KDE and GNOME devs. In this regard props to all three.)
As typical, GNOME has a tendency to drop support to older software before the newer one is ready. I’m glad that I dumped it in 3.0 times.
I don’t use KDE but thumbs up to them. Wayland did not reach feature parity with X11 yet; and while it’s good to encourage migration, users should be allowed to use the old tool when it makes sense for them.
The main thing I remember from my thermodynamics classes is the day I broke the thermometer. Yup.
Ja, groß. It’s fucking great. (Sub the toast with polenta for me.)
Got it - thanks for the info.
X11: even regardless of whatever non-Linux takes the forker holds, forking X11 seems to be such a bad idea. The X11→Wayland migration is being painful, and now we see the light at the end of the tunnel might as well improve Wayland instead. Cue to the next piece of news (Ubuntu and Manjaro ditching X11).
I wonder if Denmark ditching Microsoft is directly related to Schleswig-Holstein doing it. Specially given they’re neighbours.
Google ditching Android: may I be honest? I think smartphones are wrong the grounds up. They should be more like miniature PCs; in this case, meaning “if you’re able to run an OS in a PC, you should be able to run it in a phone, and vice versa”. But of course hardware vendors give no fucks, right? PC-isation of smartphones means people replacing parts too, and noooo, you can’t have people not ditching their whole phone after few years!
Now I’m not sure, but I think it’s an edit because the font and punctuation of Catherine’s quote is completely different from Dylan’s. It looks like someone copypasted his signature as her quote.
I know this is an edit, but Catherine saying “Dylan” made me laugh.
Kent Overstreet, Bcachefs maintainer. There’s new drama going on between him and Torvalds.