This is the kind of divorced from reality slop I expect to see from managers who think that 9 mothers can birth a child in one month

I don’t understand comments like this

It’s a wishlist of Open tickets. Wouldn’t necessarily even call this a commitment to a roadmap.

Roadmaps are just wishlists with a committed to priority list, like an assembly line. Programming doesn’t work like an assembly line and anyone trying to convince you to the contrary is bullshiting marketing.

Every task has the potential to bring forwards new information that changes the order in which tasks should be completed, let alone which tasks even need to attempted. You only get all the information once you’ve finished.

Instead of having an inflexible commitment, use a wishlist, and do the tasks in order of which one makes the most sense at the time.

75% of Open tickets will never get resolved anyway.

Based on what?

You can clearly see that practically all tickets in their previous epoch were resolved: https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/23/insights?period=max

If I were a uutils developer, I would stay far away from all of these discussions because of how much hate is directed towards it.

I only see the hate towards this project being either from anti-rust trolls, or misdirected hate from Ubuntu towards switching to a new coreutils implementation on an LTS release before full compatibility has been achieved. I don’t see any hate in regards to licensing.

If they do not adopt the license you prefer, would it be better for them to just go ahead and abandon the whole effort? Are there efforts really so valueless simply because they chose the license that they did?

Their efforts have value, but the value is limited by its current license. MIT licenced projects have a recurring history of being improved privately without those improvements going back into the project. It leads to a lot of duplicated, wasted effort. There may also be the potential for patent issues with the licence. No one wants to deal with some litigious asshole or company going after the project turning it radioactive.

Moreover, is dictating to volunteers what license they should be using for their code what you think this community should be about?

I think bringing up issues with the project is definitely something that should be brought up. As for dictating which particular licence is used, that’s up to the contributors, but that doesn’t mean others can’t give their input. It’s also likely that most of the contributors will want a license that allows the project to safely continue into the future.

You claim that it is important that people make tons noise in every single post on uutils because it will prevent a bad scenario down the line, but could you detail what that scenario is? Because people like to make allusions to such a scenario constantly but refuse to get specific and then engage on a discussion on the specifics.

I thought the Redis example was a good example of this.

I continue on this point further down, but I’m leaving this right now to stay on topic with redis.

Incidentally, your choice of Redis is an example exactly illustrates my point that this license is not a gigantic deal it shows that the worst case scenario is… uutils being forked.

The community was fractured. A report by an enterprise support company said 75% of existing redis users were motivated to seek alternatives. I’m not sure what number you would consider to be a gigantic deal, but Redis certainly thought it was, otherwise they would not have reverted back to the previous license.

Heck, it can even be forked at any time with a copyleft license precisely because its existing language is permissive.

It can be forked, but relicensing can mean needing permission from every contributor of the original, and/or removing all contributions from those who don’t agree to the new licence. Not to mention the community fracturing, and legal issues. It’s a massive effort that can be prevented by the original project choosing a better license earlier.

You claim that it is important that people make tons noise in every single post on uutils because it will prevent a bad scenario down the line, but could you detail what that scenario is? Because people like to make allusions to such a scenario constantly but refuse to get specific and then engage on a discussion on the specifics.

Well this comment is probably getting too long, so I’ll simply point you towards the busybox licensing drama.

So it needs to be commented on in every single article?

Yes

If so, is that going to change anything?

Potentially.

The alternative is not bringing up the concern and it goes forgotten until it is too late and we are stuck with the results of bad decisions for no good reason.

Developers voicing their concerns is the only way things can change for the better.

Here’s two examples:

1. Redis licensing rug pull

   • Redis unexpectly changed its own licencing
   • Developers demanded Redis return to its original (or similar) licence
   • Redis said no
   • Developers formed their own Redis clones from scratch with compatible APIs
   • Developers switched to the new Redis replacements
   • Redis returned back to the original licence in an attempt to keep existing users

2. Google’s JpegXL whiplash

   • Google added support for jpegxl in Chrome
   • Google removed support for jpegxl in Chrome in favour of inferior standards
   • Developers demanded support added back
   • Google said no
   • Developers flooded every issue tracker and feature request with support for jpegxl, consistently, unrelentingly, for years
   • Other browsers add support for jpegxl
   • Creative industry adds support for jpegxl
   • PDF association adds support for jpegxl
   • Google forced choose between jpegxl or fall out of supporting pdf standard
   • Google readds jpegxl support

And there’s plenty of other examples (e.g. Microsoft against linux -> WSL support, etc…)

If developers don’t voice their concerns, then things stop changing for the better.

Licencing is a legitimate concern (not noise), even more so considering it’s for the core utils

macOS has far better desktop applications across the board than Linux. What you get for free with a Mac is nothing to sneeze at:

Counterpoint: The apple of yore is not the apple of today.

Recent examples:

• https://noheger.at/blog/2026/01/11/the-struggle-of-resizing-windows-on-macos-tahoe/
• https://blog.johnozbay.com/what-happened-to-apples-attention-to-detail.html
• https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/
• etc…

At this point, the beginner-friendly linux distros (Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Bazzite) are more sensible and logically consistent than either Windows or MacOS.

Tangent: If you’re looking at paid git clients on MacOS, I’d recommend fork over Git Tower or Kaleidoscope.

That should be:

People use used windows because it has had decades of backwards compatibility sort of.

Nowadays: it has current compatibility sort of.

Microsoft is a mess now, so it’s no surprise that their current Windows version is also a mess.

App stores are always terrible no matter which distro you use.

• Images don’t load
• Stuck waiting 30 seconds for a page in the app store to load (if it loads at all)
• last rating is 7 years old
• random utilities written 12 years ago are at the top of the page
• “featured” apps haven’t even been tested on that distro

There’s a million different apps for this, and they add features on top like sharing one mouse, keyboard between devices, etc…

Why does everyone talk like Photoshop is the only program Adobe makes?

It’s because most professional creative jobs require raster image editing in at least some part of the production pipeline and photoshop fulfils that need in the adobe suite, so it’s the most talked about product in that suite.

For linux, we have great:

• Video editing (Davinci Resolve)
• 3d (Blender)
• Digital Art (Krita)

But raster image editing isn’t in that list.

There’s things like GIMP, but it’s always behind photoshop. It only got non-destructive editing less than a year ago (which is what most serious creatives need to use), but photoshop’s had that since CS2 back in 2005!

If someone actually wanted to beat adobe (e.g. the EU or wikimedia), they would have to pay for 20 developers to work on graphite and you’d probably have something better than GIMP or Inkscape after 7 years, something better than Affinity in 12 years, and something better than photoshop in 15 years.

Well… Youtubers (and other creatives) are the main awareness funnel for everyday people to hear about linux in the first place.

Creatives are typically stuck on windows because their workflow doesn’t work on linux. And yes, they can change their workflow, but there’s also a high time + effort cost to doing that which gets even higher for them since they still need to produce their works while switching.

What’s with all the complaints here?

New users expect middle click to bring up an auto-scroll widget instead of pasting by default.

You can set up your computer how ever you want.

Want auto-scroll? Set it to auto-scroll.

Want paste? Set it to paste.

The first thing you do on a new system is set up the computer how you want.

No one’s taking anything away from you.

It looks nice, but I don’t want to downgrade back to a 24.04 LTS release.

Currently running Kubuntu 25.10.

I ran 24.04 LTS earlier an it had terrible gpu and wayland issues which are fixed in 25.10.

Kubuntu 25.10 runs amazingly.

I’m waiting for 26.04 LTS before trying out Cosmic.

Cosmic will have sorted out the biggest new launch bugs and paper cuts by then, and I won’t have to use 24.04.

What about non-steam games or discord game invites?

It’s scanning your computer by default to check what programs are you using or what games are you playing

This is exactly why I like Discord.

If I’m online and not playing a game, I want my friends to see that I’m online so they can message me.

If I’m playing a game, I want my friends to know I am playing that game.

If it’s a multiplayer game, they can join in.

If it’s a single player campaign focused game, they know I won’t be keen to play a multiplayer game right now, but they can still message me if something big and spontaneous is happening.

If I don’t want to be contacted at all, I close discord.

Most projects have codes of conduct, even if it’s something as simple as Wheaton’s Law.

The original creator of hyprland behaved in a way that made people leave the project (the “political” part comes from the creator’s discrimination). It was basically a good example for why projects should have codes of conduct.

A framework alternative like novacustom would be better

Personally I think it’s more of a fuckup and PR misstep rather than endorsing any particular world-view.

Nah,

If they admitted they hadn’t done their research, apologised for the matter and promised to be more careful in the future, it would have blown over in a day and their community would have retained their respect for them and it would have been looked back as a brief fuckup / pr misstep.

Instead they went into detail about how one of the two controversial parties has changed and said nothing about the other party, except to say they wanted a big tent (which is a massive “dogwhistle” for we allow the intolerant into our space and will let them be intolerant to the detriment of all others).

When asked for clarification and given the chance to explain what they really wanted, they went silent and haven’t responded since.

That silence speaks volumes.

If it were me, I’d go novacustom. They’re framework without the nazi shit.

Or

… you could just buy from another company like framework but without the nazi shit.

Like: https://novacustom.com/

Configure what laptop you want and buy it.

If any random part breaks, you can buy a replacement and switch it out.