• emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    I’m so proud of my government for acting consistently. They support Russia and Israel.

    (I get why they’re doing it, but it still feels wrong.)

  • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Aha i’m going to have fun reading the comments. Liberals let their fascism show whenever geopolitics get involved.

  • Digital_man@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    Simple, Palestinians are brown and have less resources that America wants/needs.

    I’m with both Palestinians and Ukrainians.

  • LapGoat@pawb.social
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    2 years ago

    idk, from an american perspective, pretty sure the americans that support Ukraine also support Palestine, whereas the americans that support Russia also support Israel.

    mostly certain.

  • Zoldyck@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I’ve seen so many stupid takes today, and this is one of them. The conflicts aren’t similar!

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      2 years ago

      They’re not identical, but they have similarities. What Russia is trying to do to Ukraine is not dissimilar to what Israel did to Palestine half a century ago.

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      2 years ago

      In what ways are they different that it justifies supporting Ukraine but not Palestine?

      No one is saying they’re identical. But there are similarities.

  • rusty@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Cant they just give the whole land to the Arabs, declare Jerusalem as a religious state (like Vatican City) and create a new Capital for the new Palestine Land?

    • InputZero@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      This is called the two state solution, and it’d be nice. It’s been tried and it failed, and that’s why Israel and Palestine are fighting now. It seems like the best solution but so far Israel has never agreed to it.

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    2 years ago

    Ukraine is simply more important to the countries bordering russia, the EU and it’s allies

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      2 years ago

      Ukraine is a sovereign nation that got attacked by another country.

      Palestine just carried out a horrible attack on Israel. Plus the history of Israel and Palestine is totally different. It’s just apples and oranges. I’m not claiming in any way Israel is right here, but Hamas is definitely scum of the Earth.

  • Gabu@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Hurr durr, now that a palestinian terrorist group is attacking is the best moment to be vocal about palestinian freedom

    And you people wonder why you get downvoted?

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      You’re telling on yourself. You genuinely don’t give a shit about the Palestinian struggle. You just want them to sit down and take their genocide.

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        Perhaps they could sit down when it comes to killing innocent civvies and stick to military targets. I have always been outspoken in Palestine’s favor but lines were crossed and nobody should support it.

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    2 years ago

    Idk if this is a hot take, but imo the war in Ukraine is pretty clear city while the Palestinian and Israeli conflict his an infinite list of wrinkles and nuances.

    It’s far less controversial to say the former is Russia’s fault than it is to say the latter is either Palestine’s or Israel’s fault.

    • Ineocla@lemmy.ml
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      Yeah mostly because isreal/ Palestine conflict is much older then russia/Ukraine so a lot of things happened. But at it’s very core they both started because of the same claim : russia claimed used to own Ukraine so they want it back. The jews used to own Palestine so they want it back. So if you support Ukraine and isreal you’re just a hypocrite

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        I haven’t seen anyone here “support Israel”. Almost everyone agrees that the Israeli State is not free of guilt, far from it.

        What people really disagree over is whether that alone makes Palestine right (nuanced) and whether it justifies Hamas’ actions (unhinged but unfortunately semi-common take on here).

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      What nuance is there be had about this? Israel is a settler-colonial apartheid state that deserves what should’ve happened to America when those settlers were doing it. That’s like saying “the civil rights conflict has an infinite list of wrinkles and nuances”; in that it’s objectively wrong.

    • bigFab@lemmy.world
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      Palestinian conflict is very simple: an army vs civilians. Only gonna end when all the latter are dead.

      Should we ever try to sanction that army? Never! Should we try sanctioning US for killing million iraqis who had not a WMD? No! Should we sanction Nato for bombing the wealthiest african estate libya to it’s ruin? Ah wait, WE are Nato. Can’t shoot own ankle.

      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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        2 years ago

        Seems like both armies versus civilians.

        There’s not many other conflicts where I can remark “two war crimes don’t make a right” damn near every time.

        • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
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          Hamas is a militia. They don’t have an airforce and whatever else is required to be a military.

          I’d urge you to compare the casualties caused by each of the “armies”. Hamas is not even a fraction of the concern that Israel is.