I am car C. I don’t care if car D is pissed at me, because I have autism and driving is overwhelming for me. I’m being extra cautious because it takes me longer to process sensory input because I can’t filter out the irrelevant things. Plus, I always make sure to check the crosswalks. I as a pedestrian have come very close to being hit while crossing multiple times and it seems most other drivers don’t give a shit about pedestrians at all.
Can’t speak for other nations, but driving is pretty much mandatory in most parts of the U.S. And the parts that have good transit and/or walkability are also the more expensive areas. Our car-centric infrastructure is very ableist.
They say that driving is a privilege. But not having to drive is also a privilege.
Because our society has widely available public transit and pedestrian/biking options, of course there is no overwhelming pressure to drive to be able to hold down a job and purchase food. /s
on the one hand, fuck you for your gatekeeping bullshit. You obviously don’t understand how nearly every developed country has built infrastructure to exclusively allow car eccentric transportation. Busses, if they exist, suck ass. Bike lanes, if they exist, are also terrible. If you don’t have a car, you can’t live.
On the other hand, almost nobody should be in personal cars. Public transportation fucking sucks and needs to be massively improved so that people like whom you responded to don’t need to drive.
edit: bring on your downvotes, I’m right and you can’t handle it.
Stopping when you shouldn’t is not driving cautiously, it is driving dangerously in disguise. Drive the way everyone expects you to or you will cause accidents.
They didn’t say they would yield, just take slightly more time to make the appropriate checks. And not sure about your car, but most have lights that indicate what they’re doing (slowing/stopping and signaling); which a cautious driver would likely use more effectively than I would assume someone who just drives how they think other people are expecting them to would.
Being cautious is correct. Being unpredictable because you’re driving abnormally is super dangerous.
The reason we have a driving system is so that everyone knows that to expect from everyone else. If you operate outside of that system you’re a danger to yourself and everyone else.
Seriusly, if you cant filter information or you are not able to react to your surroundings please dont drive. Half a second of reaction time more is a lot when you are driving a 2 ton car with 100kmh around… that si rhe reason drunk driving is not allowed or driving while high…
I live in freedumb land so cars are the only reliable option. I’d love to use public transit, but doing so would require me to at least drive to a park and ride, and the bus system where I live is unreliable. I’d love to immigrate to a country that isn’t car brained, but I don’t have the resources.
If the crosswalk is designed properly, a car approaching a traffic circle should only need to look at traffic, because the crosswalk would be well in front of the traffic circle. Once you pass the crosswalk, there only reason to stop is if there’s a car in the way.
That’s the great thing about traffic circles, they reduce the sensory input so drivers only need to worry about one thing at a time. At a regular intersection, you need to worry about pedestrians and potentially cars coming from two directions.
The safest thing to do at a traffic circle is enter and exit as efficiently as possible. If you stop unnecessarily, it’ll take longer to get your car moving (increasing accident risk in the circle) and potentially cause backups in other intersections behind you.
Most of the roundabouts near me have the crosswalks right up by the circle, so you’d have to either stop on top of the crosswalk, or stop with it in front of you. If you stopped with the crosswalk behind you, you’d be in the circle.
And I do look at the circle ahead of time and will go if it is clear, but if it isn’t then I do stop, and it happens to take me longer to make a decision as to when I am good to go than most other people.
If I didn’t live in freedumb land, I wouldn’t drive, but driving is the only reliable option here.
Yeah, US infrastructure is pretty crappy, I live here too. Traffic circles, when they exist, are poorly implemented and in stupid places.
One super annoying one is about 100ft from a traffic light, and the traffic always gets backed up into the circle. If that intersection was also a traffic circle it wouldn’t be an issue. But it’s right next to two high traffic stores (Walmart and Home Depot), and is the best way to get to several others, so it’s always stuck.
The rest are really far from traffic, so there’s not enough traffic to actually get much benefit. Yet people still screw them up.
We really need to double down and put traffic circles in important areas so people learn to use them. Instead, we hide them away and put them in stupid spots.
I’d gladly opt out of driving if it were reasonable to do so. Give us transit and proper bicycle infrastructure so I that don’t risk getting pancaked but some fuckwit driver with their nose in their phone.
Note that I’ve been driving for over a quarter century without collision or moving violation, so not so much a skill issue per se.
Yea, all the circles around me car c would be cutting off the pink car by the time they actually got moving into the circle if they were stopped. The circles are not that big.
I am car C. I don’t care if car D is pissed at me, because I have autism and driving is overwhelming for me. I’m being extra cautious because it takes me longer to process sensory input because I can’t filter out the irrelevant things. Plus, I always make sure to check the crosswalks. I as a pedestrian have come very close to being hit while crossing multiple times and it seems most other drivers don’t give a shit about pedestrians at all.
This is no excuse. If sensory issues make it difficult for you to drive correctly, then you should not be driving at all.
Can’t speak for other nations, but driving is pretty much mandatory in most parts of the U.S. And the parts that have good transit and/or walkability are also the more expensive areas. Our car-centric infrastructure is very ableist.
They say that driving is a privilege. But not having to drive is also a privilege.
Because our society has widely available public transit and pedestrian/biking options, of course there is no overwhelming pressure to drive to be able to hold down a job and purchase food. /s
sorry this is a problem too american for the rest of us to sympathize about.
on the one hand, fuck you for your gatekeeping bullshit. You obviously don’t understand how nearly every developed country has built infrastructure to exclusively allow car eccentric transportation. Busses, if they exist, suck ass. Bike lanes, if they exist, are also terrible. If you don’t have a car, you can’t live.
On the other hand, almost nobody should be in personal cars. Public transportation fucking sucks and needs to be massively improved so that people like whom you responded to don’t need to drive.
edit: bring on your downvotes, I’m right and you can’t handle it.
If you think being cautious is incorrect then you don’t know what driving incorrectly means.
Stopping when you shouldn’t is not driving cautiously, it is driving dangerously in disguise. Drive the way everyone expects you to or you will cause accidents.
They didn’t say they would yield, just take slightly more time to make the appropriate checks. And not sure about your car, but most have lights that indicate what they’re doing (slowing/stopping and signaling); which a cautious driver would likely use more effectively than I would assume someone who just drives how they think other people are expecting them to would.
Nothing says safety like being unpredictably cautious
And there’s literally only one car to keep in mind, so it’s way less problematic than a traditional 4-way intersection.
Being cautious is correct. Being unpredictable because you’re driving abnormally is super dangerous.
The reason we have a driving system is so that everyone knows that to expect from everyone else. If you operate outside of that system you’re a danger to yourself and everyone else.
Literally what I said
Seriusly, if you cant filter information or you are not able to react to your surroundings please dont drive. Half a second of reaction time more is a lot when you are driving a 2 ton car with 100kmh around… that si rhe reason drunk driving is not allowed or driving while high…
I live in freedumb land so cars are the only reliable option. I’d love to use public transit, but doing so would require me to at least drive to a park and ride, and the bus system where I live is unreliable. I’d love to immigrate to a country that isn’t car brained, but I don’t have the resources.
Thankfully driving with undiagnosed mental conditions are not criminalized in the states.
If the crosswalk is designed properly, a car approaching a traffic circle should only need to look at traffic, because the crosswalk would be well in front of the traffic circle. Once you pass the crosswalk, there only reason to stop is if there’s a car in the way.
That’s the great thing about traffic circles, they reduce the sensory input so drivers only need to worry about one thing at a time. At a regular intersection, you need to worry about pedestrians and potentially cars coming from two directions.
The safest thing to do at a traffic circle is enter and exit as efficiently as possible. If you stop unnecessarily, it’ll take longer to get your car moving (increasing accident risk in the circle) and potentially cause backups in other intersections behind you.
Most of the roundabouts near me have the crosswalks right up by the circle, so you’d have to either stop on top of the crosswalk, or stop with it in front of you. If you stopped with the crosswalk behind you, you’d be in the circle.
And I do look at the circle ahead of time and will go if it is clear, but if it isn’t then I do stop, and it happens to take me longer to make a decision as to when I am good to go than most other people.
If I didn’t live in freedumb land, I wouldn’t drive, but driving is the only reliable option here.
Yeah, US infrastructure is pretty crappy, I live here too. Traffic circles, when they exist, are poorly implemented and in stupid places.
One super annoying one is about 100ft from a traffic light, and the traffic always gets backed up into the circle. If that intersection was also a traffic circle it wouldn’t be an issue. But it’s right next to two high traffic stores (Walmart and Home Depot), and is the best way to get to several others, so it’s always stuck.
The rest are really far from traffic, so there’s not enough traffic to actually get much benefit. Yet people still screw them up.
We really need to double down and put traffic circles in important areas so people learn to use them. Instead, we hide them away and put them in stupid spots.
If you can’t drive don’t get behind the wheel
I’d gladly opt out of driving if it were reasonable to do so. Give us transit and proper bicycle infrastructure so I that don’t risk getting pancaked but some fuckwit driver with their nose in their phone.
Note that I’ve been driving for over a quarter century without collision or moving violation, so not so much a skill issue per se.
It sounds like you’re disabled in this area, and it’s unfair that the world is not more accommodating.
“Change the world to accommodate my disability and I’ll quit being a hazard to people’s life, limb, and property” is not an acceptable attitude.
Yea, all the circles around me car c would be cutting off the pink car by the time they actually got moving into the circle if they were stopped. The circles are not that big.
That’s why you shouldn’t come to a stop. Coast slowly from further away so you can accelerate easier into the circle
I often have to stop to avoid getting ran into by oncoming traffic.
They shouldn’t be stopped.