• letsgo@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    I hate getting stuck behind the “I won’t move until there are no cars anywhere on the planet” drivers.

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    5 hours ago

    Not everybody is cut out to drive (i.e. to operate dangerous heavy machinery in a fast-changing environment with others depending on you handling the situation correctly). The problem is when we structure our societies requiring everyone to do so to participate.

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      Oh God I love that its just so hulaeuosly dumb when it happens

      I just put my hands in the air and yell at them

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      5 hours ago

      “if I randomly stop in the middle of the road so another car can get in, the car right behind me probably won’t hit me”

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    There’s one “roundabout” that I know of that doesn’t have this sign:

    But instead has a few of these in the middle:

    You HAVE TO give way to the right while driving on the “roundabout”.

    Mental.

    Thanks for your time.

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    I am car C. I don’t care if car D is pissed at me, because I have autism and driving is overwhelming for me. I’m being extra cautious because it takes me longer to process sensory input because I can’t filter out the irrelevant things. Plus, I always make sure to check the crosswalks. I as a pedestrian have come very close to being hit while crossing multiple times and it seems most other drivers don’t give a shit about pedestrians at all.

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      If the crosswalk is designed properly, a car approaching a traffic circle should only need to look at traffic, because the crosswalk would be well in front of the traffic circle. Once you pass the crosswalk, there only reason to stop is if there’s a car in the way.

      That’s the great thing about traffic circles, they reduce the sensory input so drivers only need to worry about one thing at a time. At a regular intersection, you need to worry about pedestrians and potentially cars coming from two directions.

      The safest thing to do at a traffic circle is enter and exit as efficiently as possible. If you stop unnecessarily, it’ll take longer to get your car moving (increasing accident risk in the circle) and potentially cause backups in other intersections behind you.

      • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Most of the roundabouts near me have the crosswalks right up by the circle, so you’d have to either stop on top of the crosswalk, or stop with it in front of you. If you stopped with the crosswalk behind you, you’d be in the circle.

        And I do look at the circle ahead of time and will go if it is clear, but if it isn’t then I do stop, and it happens to take me longer to make a decision as to when I am good to go than most other people.

        If I didn’t live in freedumb land, I wouldn’t drive, but driving is the only reliable option here.

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          Yeah, US infrastructure is pretty crappy, I live here too. Traffic circles, when they exist, are poorly implemented and in stupid places.

          One super annoying one is about 100ft from a traffic light, and the traffic always gets backed up into the circle. If that intersection was also a traffic circle it wouldn’t be an issue. But it’s right next to two high traffic stores (Walmart and Home Depot), and is the best way to get to several others, so it’s always stuck.

          The rest are really far from traffic, so there’s not enough traffic to actually get much benefit. Yet people still screw them up.

          We really need to double down and put traffic circles in important areas so people learn to use them. Instead, we hide them away and put them in stupid spots.

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      This is no excuse. If sensory issues make it difficult for you to drive correctly, then you should not be driving at all.

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        Because our society has widely available public transit and pedestrian/biking options, of course there is no overwhelming pressure to drive to be able to hold down a job and purchase food. /s

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        on the one hand, fuck you for your gatekeeping bullshit. You obviously don’t understand how nearly every developed country has built infrastructure to exclusively allow car eccentric transportation. Busses, if they exist, suck ass. Bike lanes, if they exist, are also terrible. If you don’t have a car, you can’t live.

        On the other hand, almost nobody should be in personal cars. Public transportation fucking sucks and needs to be massively improved so that people like whom you responded to don’t need to drive.

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          Being cautious is correct. Being unpredictable because you’re driving abnormally is super dangerous.

          The reason we have a driving system is so that everyone knows that to expect from everyone else. If you operate outside of that system you’re a danger to yourself and everyone else.

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          Stopping when you shouldn’t is not driving cautiously, it is driving dangerously in disguise. Drive the way everyone expects you to or you will cause accidents.

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      Seriusly, if you cant filter information or you are not able to react to your surroundings please dont drive. Half a second of reaction time more is a lot when you are driving a 2 ton car with 100kmh around… that si rhe reason drunk driving is not allowed or driving while high…

      • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I live in freedumb land so cars are the only reliable option. I’d love to use public transit, but doing so would require me to at least drive to a park and ride, and the bus system where I live is unreliable. I’d love to immigrate to a country that isn’t car brained, but I don’t have the resources.

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      Yea, all the circles around me car c would be cutting off the pink car by the time they actually got moving into the circle if they were stopped. The circles are not that big.

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    I love roundabouts as a driver and as a pedestrian. I do admit that the double laned ones can feel like an utter cluster at times though

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      you aught to try the kind that’s 3 lanes going to 5 different places and a tram running through the middle!

      (this was the most dangerous intersection in my city for a while… they’ve added traffic lights… i do also very much love roundabouts)

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    I mean, nothing here is wrong but I have rarely had C being my primary issue when dealing with roundabouts. Idiots randomly entering the circle with no regard to other cars, THAT I’ve encountered quite frequently…

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      That’s because Americans don’t know how to use them, once you live in a place where people use them OPs picture becomes your issue and you never see yours.

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        Americans have a hard time driving, period. They can’t “keep right unless passing”, they can’t understand 4-way stops, they can’t understand traffic circles, and so much more. So frustrating and dangerous here.

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          Yesterday, I had to drive for at least 15 miles behind a transfer truck doing 45 because an idiot decided to cruise in the passing lane right beside it. I see it at least once a week.

          What’s so hard about understanding the left lane is THE PASSING LANE. FOR PASSING CARS IN THE RIGHT LANE?!

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            It’s completely F’d up. In the region I live in there are a lot of 3-lane highways (6 lanes total). People “cruise” in the #2 lane and treat it like the slow lane which forces faster traffic left and right around them in the #1 and #3 lanes sometimes going 5 under the limit, often confounded by a #1 lane camper going the speed limit or just a few over. Nobody obeys any sort of rule or has a clue they aren’t being the asshole. They refuse to keep right or yield to faster traffic.

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              I was just thinking yesterday that if Trump actually wanted to do good he could convert all these people he’s hiring for ICE into some kind of traffic enforcement agency and send all the dumbasses that can’t drive properly to el salvador. This thought happened while I was stuck in a drive through that some moron had blocked the exit of by pulling up too far.

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              1 lane each way highways solve this issue by preventing there being a passing lane except on straight aways when there is no oncoming traffic.

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        I think that’s location specific, I’ve lived in a few different places in the US that had roundabouts, although I’ve always called em rotaries in the northeast.

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        My city (US) used to have one that was signed all wrong, so cars already inside the circle would have to yield to the ones entering. Naturally this led to congestion instead of flowing traffic. Also it was way too close to a tangential road so that made things even worse because the backed up traffic on that side then affected cars that weren’t even going to the circle.

        Fortunately they ripped that shit out and redesigned the entire intersection.

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      Or badly designed ones with a combo of yield and stop signs that effectively prevent the people with the stop sign from ever proceeding

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    C is yielding to a pedestrian, but carbrain D cannot fathom yielding to anything smaller than their car.

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    Then there is this cluster fuck of a roundabout in my city Lansing, MI. Yes they do have a full STOP sign at each entrance to the roundabout for the crosswalk not just a stop for pedestrians which would make more sense. So you have to stop then yield to circle traffic then go. The entire roundabout is useless because once you stop you lose the benefit.

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      Roundabouts are not just for efficiency, they are for safety. A regular 4-way intersection introduces multiple conflicts between cars turning left and cars coming from the opposite direction.

      A roundabout only has one conflict for each connecting street, and the right of way is clearly defined.

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        They also change the angle of impacts to be less severe since they should effectively eliminate a t-bone type impact.

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    Ive had the ‘pink’ car stop in the roundabout and motion, me as the ‘A’ car, to go. Like i dont even anymore.

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      There are specific times when this might be appropriate. For example if I am turning off at the exit after where the car is joining from, I can see they’re indicating to making a move around the inner part of the roundabout which is clear, and if I proceeded I would join a queue for my exit and block them. I’ll usually stop short and gesture they move in.

      But otherwise it’s usually safer all round to stick to the rules.

  • I remember almost hitting a cop in a roundabout somewhere in my city because they didn’t follow the rules. It’s a double-wide roundabout, where the outer ring must make the first right they come to and only the inner ring can continue forward or make a right. I needed to make a right from the inner lane, the cop was in the outer lane and DIDN’T TAKE THE EXIT, and I almost turned into the asshole, expecting him to turn like he was supposed to.