I mean… No one on any Lemmy instance thinks the US has any leg to stand on.
Even righties I know think the country has kinda gone to hell. Not that any are here.
Try saying that China is better than the USA in a .world political com and prepare to be proven wrong (and probably banned)
Banned? Sure. Proven wrong? Not in your wildest dreams
The meme is making fun of US police specifically, and you’re going to get wild agreement on that. No one in Lemmy thinks our cops are good.
Now, if someone else brings up some historical event and one starts going on about how it’s a “western” hoax or getting into whataboutism, yeah, that will get you banned. And I have no intention of arguing there, it’s just an irreconcilable difference between .ml and most other instances.
No, you will absolutely get banned for saying China is better than America.
I got banned for reporting a Gaza genocide denier there, by the way, the mod told me that they make an exception to the rule against genocide denial for Gaza genocide deniers, and that reporting them was considered uncivil and thus ban worthy.
I was banned from a different .world political com for saying Kamala Harris supported Israel, apparently that was “misinformation”
Both are shit. Easy answer.
Easy, but wrong. The US Empire is orders of magnitude worse than the PRC, which itself is a progressive and continuously improving force for good. The PRC is imperfect, but the fact that it is consistently improving both domestically and internationally makes qualitatively different from the US Empire.
China is way better.
And like most easy answers, it’s wrong
No, 'murca bad so china good. Simple math, shitlib /s
Xinjiang: A Report and Resource Compilation
The PRC is not murdering Uyghurs. It’s genuinely a complex situation, but you can absolutely rely on the west to uncritically report their paid propagandist and christian nationalist Adrian Zenz of the “Victims of Communism” state department propaganda outlet.
Damn, over a decade of propaganda and the what can’t even find a single example of China killing a uyghur.
Meanwhile American police kill multiple black Americans a day.
Beyond that, they are beginning to just kill multiple US citizens daily, and that’s just police. Policy kills more, it’s just slow and easier for them to deny.
Yeah, that’s not even getting into the millions killed overseas
NATOpedia is not a source. Also, do you think we haven’t already thoroughly read that page, like this is our first rodeo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime …
- Amendment XIII, Section 1.
Fuck the US, but saying “lol x is better” is whats silly. Both can be shit at the same time and both can need revolution
Only the US needs a revolution. The vast majority in the PRC support their system and believe it is working in their interests. That makes sense, considering the PRC is socialist, and not under a dictatorship of capital. A revolution in the PRC would only result in the restoration of capitalism, and likely plundering from the US, setting back the global progression to socialism by a century by letting the US Empire last even longer.
the difference here is the uyghur thing is american propaganda while the prison thing is reality.
there’s plenty of other things that makes china look REALLY bad, but it’s not the uyghurs since it’s just the american pot calling the chinese kettle black and; even if it were 100% true; it’s not anywhere near as bad american prosecution of SOOOO many groups.
It’s not silly if it’s true. Both certainly could be shit at the same time, but currently only one is.
eating up that propaganda like you’re in a famine
haha! Yeah a wikipedia link! Im sure the content anybody can edit isn’t being controlled by Western narratives 😂
Yes, like everywhere. Remember Tienanmen square protests?
No, because it happened before I was born. Do you not understand what a self own it is that you have to go back four decades for an example of Chinese police killing the amount of people that the US police kill every four months?
I don’t see why we have to contrast the US and China so that one is a good guy and one is a bad guy. Has the US exploited the rest of the world since WWII for our own financial interests? Yes. Do we have an increasingly authoritarian government seeking to eventually crush internal dissent? Yes.
None of that makes China good.
If you don’t want to talk about Tiananmen Square, talk about China forcefully relocated migrant workers ahead of the Olympics in 2008. Talk about China sending Uyghurs to reeducation camps and forcefully sterilizing some of them. Talk about how China forced women to abandon/ abort babies for 30 years throughout vast swaths of their country. Talk about how people residing in China can’t actually talk about any of these things, to the point where citizens of Hong Kong fought back with violent protests and many fled to resist their encroaching authoritarian hand.
Did China raise more than a billion people out of brutal poverty in a single generation, and was it one of the most impressive and important developments of the last century? Yes, absolutely. Is an authoritarian technocracy better able to deal with the issues facing humanity in the near future like climate change? Potentially.
That doesn’t mean China’s citizens enjoy civil liberties.
Yes, we do remember. What we don’t do is misremember. Previously.
We also remember the Kent State University protest.
A well debunked western propaganda? I remember the debunking ya!
