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    This is me. Always Windows for my gaming computer and when I built a new one recently, I went full Linux. No regrets so far.

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        Bazzite.

        I found it really easy to get started with. Although I’d recommend KDE over Gnome. I tried Gnome for a few hours before changing my mind and it was just a little too different from what I was used to.

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          That’s honestly the way. Bazzite just works without tinkering. It doesn’t eat into your game time with debugging. Plus KDE is very Win10 like, so it’s all just familiar and easy.

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            I’m glad Bazzite is what it is, but I’m hoping some of y’all get interested in other distros in the next few years. There’s several great options out there (and I don’t want to say … have everyone wind up on Ubuntu flavors and be having the same conversation about corporate overreach in a decade with Canonical as the new Microsoft)

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              have everyone wind up on Ubuntu flavors and be having the same conversation about corporate overreach in a decade with Canonical as the new Microsoft)

              Bazzite is Fedora based, not Ubuntu.

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              Eh, I already have a decent amount of skill with running other distros headless. When it’s gaming time I prefer a solution that just works 99% of the time.

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                Yeah, I love tinkering, but I also love not having to worry about an updating breaking my system. Bazzite is almost boringly stable lol

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          I’m used to Debian so I prefer Gnome, but either way, congrats on being more skilled with Bazzite than JayZTwoCents!

          Here’s your commemorative psuedo gem!

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        It does, like any good relationship, need some work. I have been using Mint as my main driver for the last couple of months, and even being a beginner friendly Linux it still needed some time to learn and google around. Now that it’s set up i haven’t run into anything for a long while.

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      I still run Windows on a rarely-used old laptop. Every time I use it, it reminds me how much that’s true.

      • Forcing you to reboot to install updates, sometimes interrupting a download or something just because it knows best
      • Ads creeping in all over the place
      • More and more “features” you don’t want and never asked for
      • AI being shoved in your face
      • Surveillance everywhere
      • Constantly trying to push you to use “Edge” instead of your chosen browser
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    switched to arch 7 or so months ago because of the recall spyware breaking the camels back. havent looked back since, i shouldve switched sooner i actually like using my computer now!

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      Roughly the same for me. I couldn’t use Windows 11 on my old one and certainly wasn’t going to put it in my new one. Gaming has been a breeze too, much easier than I was led to believe.

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    Fuck windows, and copilot, and recall, and most especially OneDrive, and start menu ads, and unnecessary upgrades and … And … I gotta say I’m so much happier on Ubuntu, took me a little googling on some stuff and proton is still finicky sometimes, but man o man is it nice to have an OS which does what I tell it to.

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    I have over 300 games installed and fully functional at least one from every year from 1989 to 2025. They all work. Some work better on Arch some (older 32 bit games from original CD) run better on Mint or wont install on Arch. Newer ones like Doom Dark Ages simply run better on Arch. Good luck installing DCS on Wayland though. Just dual boot an X11 focused distro and a Wayland focused one for best of both worlds. Windows hijacked my 25+ year old Hotmail account with their OneDrive ransomware and took my Linux EFI boot partition with it when it was promptly uninstalled. Every single game that is exclusive to Windows is a virus just like the OS that they run on. All cartooned out and loaded with microtransactions and invasive anti cheats. Ew. I would rather compute on a Texas Instruments calculator than install the Windows virus ever again. Id rather draw numbers in the sand than use one of their nasty products or play one of their ugly mass marketed games for dummies. Just absolutely wretched. X670E Creator Wifi, 7950x, 4080 Super, 64GB RAM, 1200W PSU, 4tb Samsung 9100 Pro gen5 nvme, 2x 2tb 990 Pro game drives, Arch and Mint share game drives and run the same files through Steam, Lutris, etc.

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    Well, I for one installed Linux on my old surface book 2 yesterday, and my steam library works great on Linux. Even got better FPS.

    So I became a Linux gamer yesterday and am super happy

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    I think it’s important to point out that the percentages are not necessarily that meaningful. If more people are using steam deck and ditch their windows PCs for it, it’s not an OS choice. It’s a choice to move to consoles. Additionally, steam deck also competes with traditional console brands (PS, Xbox, switch) and might take some market share there as well, so that even if no one ditched their windows PCs, the total number of users using goes up and hence, the percentage.

    I haven’t had a steam deck in my hands, but I guess that it doesn’t need the user to understand the underlying system at all. It can be used by the same unskilled people who use android or iPhone. So, one core requirement I think people need to have to install any other os is not met or even trained, which is actual knowledge about computers.

    The reports about “increase in market share of Linux user’s” is from my point of view, which is “I think it would be great if people would ditch windows and office” just a market bit. Useful but ultimately little meaningful.

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      Perhaps the steam deck is a gateway drug for desktop linux?

      The gaming industry will never recover when valve gets picked clean by the capitalist vultures that continously circle it.

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        The PS3 also ran on Linux and allowed users to boot into full desktop Linux. Didn’t exactly lead to the Year of the Desktop Linux, did it?

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          If I remember correctly, that require manual Linux install as well, didn’t it? I think it was more complicated which was the reason I decided against a PS3. Never did it though.

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            I googled a bit about this, and you are right, it did require installing via Live CD, but you could also directly boot it from live CD.

            The PS2 on the other hand had an official Linux on PS2 kit though that came with Linux pre-installed if I understand correctly.

            Anyway, I wouldn’t hold my breath that the Steam Deck will usher in a bright new future of Linux usage.

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      Mhm, fair point. Although… I would say the steam deck’s popularity and proof of viability as a gaming device is doing an immense amount of work on its own. I built a gaming PC ~2 years ago, and even as a long time developer and someone comfortable with a UNIX terminal I opted to get a copy of Windows for gaming, and had to awkwardly get to grips with it and find tools to get it playing the way I wanted.

      It’s only ~1 month ago that the prevalence and maturity of the steam deck (combined with Windows recall re-emerging🤮) finally had me at ease enough to give Bazzite a shot, and since jumping myself and expressing how happy I am with it, 2 of my long term “on the fence” friends have asked me questions and are starting to try Linux themselves.

      Larger Linux market share, regardless of how it gets there, gives broad confidence in Linux, and also pushes developers and Steam itself to maintain Linux support and tools like Proton, which reinforces the cycle, even if it doesn’t help us “kill Windows” for as long as users don’t understand how to install it.

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        Absolutely agree. My point is, that we people should consider these aspects because many comments I saw where a bit one sided as if this loop was already accelerating and 2025 would be the year of Linux.

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        That’s not what I meant or said. But depending on your setup, the user might need to deactivate bios settings which are named differently or can at least be found in different areas of the bios. So that’s a skill they need. Additionally they have to format a hard drive, which requires understanding that not all data is wiped if the data is for example stored in the cloud or a different drive. Additionally, they would have to decide for a distro and desktop, which can easily be overwhelming, as well as a fulesystem during installation… there are lot of skills most users don’t have because they are no longer required. And seeing these skill requirements for an unskilled person can be a huge barrier and deal killer.

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          As much as i think people should have these skills and more, and that it is important to growth: "here is your computer, the OS us called ‘mint’, heres where your stuff is, here’s your start menu yiu launch programs from, here’s desktop shortcuts to the things you do, check emails and spread sheets to your heart’s content.

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      If more people are using steam deck and ditch their windows PCs for it, it’s not an OS choice. It’s a choice to move to consoles.

      They might have as well moved to Windows handheld or Nintendo Switch. They specifically chose the only Linux handheld on the market.

      [Steam Deck] can be used by the same unskilled people who use android or iPhone. So, one core requirement I think people need to have to install any other os is not met or even trained, which is actual knowledge about computers.

      Why is this a core requirement with Linux only? There are millions and millions of Windows users who have never installed an OS. Sounds gatekeeping to me.

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        They might have as well moved to Windows handheld or Nintendo Switch. They specifically chose the only Linux handheld on the market.

        No, they chose a Steam console. A device with the same high convenience and low bar of entry as any other console, but with their (almost) whole Steam library on it.

        Why is this a core requirement with Linux only? There are millions and millions of Windows users who have never installed an OS. Sounds gatekeeping to me.

        Because conciously choosing and installing Linux is currently the requirement to run Linux on your PC.

        If I go to the local electronics store I can pick up a Windows, MacOS or ChromeOS device that has everything pre-installed: OS, drivers, dependencies, all setup for instant usage.

        And if I don’t even know what an OS is, I’ll get a Windows PC recommended by the sales people at said electronics store.

        That kind of user experience is usually not available for prospective Linux users.

        Unless they buy a Steam Deck, which is pretty much the only native Linux PC that’s popular enough that a non-tech person would know it.

        (Technically stuff like Tuxedo and Framework exist, but they are pretty unknown.)

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        I might be misinterpreting your response but you seem offended. Not sure why, as it wasn’t my intention.

        Firstly, I am not aware of, as in “not well informed about” windows based hand helds. To my understanding, steam is quite dominant in the market, and advertising the steam deck through their platform. Why should someone bother with a windows handheld to install steam on the device, if steam comes with the steam deck? Why should someone with a large library move to another system? No, I think steam deck is the most comfo choice when you play games on steam and want a console or hand-held system without the drawbacks of other systems. I own a switch and deeply regrett buying it in 2019, now that the steam deck would allow me to play the same titles. It’d be a much better choice for me.

        I don’t understand your comment on gate keeping though. Having easily installed upgrades (win 10->11 for example) makes live easy. Moving to a different os nowadays is a much larger barrier compared to, say, the year 2000, when you had to buy a cd and format your entire system just to realize that drivers are missing and you had to actually figure things out. At the time, moving to a new version was complicated but forced people to educate them selves. Now, it’s just a click to upgrade. The barrier is reduced, less gate keeping, great! But also less skilled people.

        And it’s not meant with disrespect. Live got easier, keeping the system updated got easier, people weren’t forced to learn stuff and subseque vendor locked in. Now the skill barrier seems huge for many people and trying another os, even if it was apple, becomes unfathomable.

        Again, it’s great that Through the steam deck Linux development is pushed forward as fast as it does. My day to day users won’t migrate unless they are very tech savvy or the enshitification progresses further and further. My employer just decided to move everything to SharePoint because co pilots helps us all doing our work so much faster… I’d have opted for something different and tried to reduce the vendor lock in… but that step would’ve been to large apparently.

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    The July 2025 data shows that Windows’ market share on Steam dropped by 0.44% while Linux’s market share grew by 0.32%.

    While okay this is growth, it’s not exactly meteoric. Hopefully the trend picks up steam (cough) as the win10 EOL approaches.

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      I dunno .32% in a single month seems pretty significant. Obviously it’s not like Windows is going to go the way of the dodo but it’s looking like Linux may be taking a permanent piece of the pie where it had no staying power before.

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        I hate to say it, but it’s literally PewDiePie recording a video and showing young gaming fans Linux and calling it “cool”. That’s it. The guy’s got 110M subscribers.

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          Maybe. But so what? Pewdiepie wouldn’t have made the video if windows didn’t have serious problems, and if Linux wasn’t an incredibly good kernel to build an OS on.

          That video highlighted that you don’t have to be technical to use Linux, it’s here, and it’s ready for mass adoption.

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      Lots think the gamers will switch over as win10 gets to EOL. I don’t think so. Most gaming machines need to be more modern tomsupport modern games, so they will likely stick with windows and move to win11. I think Linux has a chance to convert many with older PCs, but they won’t be the gamers.

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        Hell I switched to Linux specifically because I refused to get W11. I do have to agree with you though, the average gamer probably won’t switch to Linux unfortunately.

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    At this point it is just easier to play 90% of my Steam library on Linux. Maybe it’s different for NVIDIA cards, but with AMD Microsoft is constantly trying to automatically installing old drivers and breaking things. No amount of registry edits seems to stop it. Hell, I had to open the command line just to install Windows with a local account only. Meanwhile, Linux is just click and play now.

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      @DelnitaCrane @mesamunefire The ONLY issues I’ve ever had with gaming on Linux was with x11 WM’s and that’s ONLY because my stupid Rog Strix is dual AMD/Nvidia and it doesn’t play nice with x11. Are there fixes for my issue? no. why? because I’m an idiot that decided to buy a laptop with dual AMD/Nvidia.

      On Wayland it works fine.

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    Are we going to make a big deal out of every 0.3% shift in steams stats towards Linux?

    Wake me up when we’re dealing in whole percentages… That’s when I’ll be excited about it, until then this could just be a sampling bias. A rounding error.

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      Linux went from 2.59% to 2.89%, that’s a 11.6% increase in the number of Linux users.

      If it shifted .3% it would have went from 2.59% to 2.5977%.

      The article is confusing ‘percentage points’ with ‘percentage’

      Another way of looking at it is that the Steam Linux user population went from ~3,418,000 users to ~3,814,000 users. So there are nearly 400,000 new Linux gamers.

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        0.3% overall. There might be half a million new Linux gamers on steam, but there’s still hundreds of millions of PC gamers using Windows.

        You can arrange the numbers how you want, the fact is that this is still a pretty small shift in the overall PC gamer landscape. I promise you, that’s how any larger developer sees it. Their pool of PC gamers shifted by a fraction of a percent. A good chunk of those that they “lost” as potential customers, probably wouldn’t have bought their games in the first place.

        The demographic overlap for large studios of people who are intentionally using Linux for gaming, and people that are interested in their game, doesn’t overlap much, if at all, I bet. Until we get their key demographic switching over in large enough quantities to threaten their profits, the majority of the industry won’t budge from their windows centric views.

        Look. I don’t hate Linux. Quite the opposite in fact. I’m rooting for these stats to move in and significant amount. I feel that’s an inevitable shift that will happen and until we do, we’ll keep getting these articles, describing a fraction of a percent move in the overall numbers as if it’s a huge culture shift for how people are playing games.

        If you haven’t seen it, maybe you should watch field of dreams, becasuse the main tag line of the movie “if you build it, they will come” definitely applies here. The larger PC gaming community, there is a statistically significant number of indie devs and indie studios that support Linux as a platform, even if it’s just the steam deck they’re building for… Those studios just are not the biggest players in terms of revenue/sales… But they’re the ones building “it”. This is slowly but surely fueling the fires that will eventually burn down Microsoft’s dominance in the gaming space. It’s been a war that’s been waged for literal decades, since before steam was a thing.

        There will come a day when we will hit critical mass and the large studios will be forced to either accept that their user base is shrinking because they don’t support Linux. That day is not today. We will need to see much more movement than a few percent difference before that happens. This isn’t even a few percent. This is a fraction of a percent of the total.

        So forgive me if I’m not excited by any of this. It’s movement in the right direction, but it’s utterly meaningless to the companies that could actually shift the industry to Linux on a large scale.

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    If the survey hit for me 1 week from now I’d be on Linux, I’m literally setting my system up properly next Saturday

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        That comes with its own risks because Windows has been known to destroy dual boot setups when doing updates. Not always, but it can happen and it’s burnt people.

        Dual booting also makes it harder when you decide to get rid of windows fully, because you might yourself accidentally screw your bootloader as part of removing windows.

        The option I would personally recommend if you are unsure is to disconnect your windows hard drive, keep it safe, and install Linux on a separate drive. Then you can always drive swap back if you need and you know everything is safe.

        You can even put the windows drive back in after installing Linux, and then just use your BIOS boot drive selector to switch where you are booting from. Each drive has it’s own boot record in that case, so there’s less risk of any accidents.

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          Disconnecting is good advice. What worked for me after windowa scrubbed the EFI boot was installing Linux and assigning its own EFI partition, most distros probe foreign OS so your separate Linux partition gets a chainloader entry to the windows EFI boot. You set BIOS to use Linux boot, Windows gets a handoff if you choose it in the Grub Menu and doesn’t know about the other EFI partition. Kept my dual install save.

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    It’s good to see people making a switch to Linux. But the real tell will be in finding out how many of those people actually stick long term.

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      Dual booting will likely be a part of it, and microsoft will do whatever they need to make sure the bootloader is broken constantly.

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        And that’s exactly why my Windows install is locked away in VM hell. Fucked with my bootloader twice and I said never again.

        I even set up a custom boot option that autoloads the Windows VM and passes through all USB and auxiliary storage devices in a lightweight Linux environment, so other than the brief Linux boot log, it feels exactly like a native install, 10/10 recommend

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      Not arguing with your choice (props actually, I respect the switch) but it is possible to get a legit grey market key for w11 Pro for a lot less. I think I got mine for $20-30 in early 2024?

      Edit: I should have noticed I was in the Linux group before I posted that, I thought I was still in the gaming one I guess! Not advocating windows to anyone, it’s a terrible OS. But some people might need it for some things so I figured I’d share information that might help someone save a bit of money if they did. (Yes, there are other ways around that.)

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    The change is even more dramatic if you consider only those users who use English as their language in Steam. Also, Linux adoption rate has sped up this year. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/ collects various data about Steam usage. One of the charts (screenshot below) show Linux market share among Linux/English users and overall Linux market share. I added the red line to demonstrate how I see the growth. There’s only few data points this side of the year, so my drawing is most likely wrong, but the growth starts around March. The green line is at 4.8% in January and February and 6.31% in July, so a nice 30% increase within about 6 months among Linux/English users.

    EDIT: The post is now more in line with reality. Couple more data points:

    • Linux market share among all Steam Linux users has gone from 2.06% in January to 2.89% in July. That’s a 40% increase within the first seven months only. And as another commenter said, the growth rate might increase towards the end of the year as more people starts abandoning Windows 10.
    • The same numbers for last year are 1.95% in Jan '24 and 2.08% in Jul '24, which is only a 6% increase.
    • But because the data is a bit jumpy, if I use approximate values of 1.75% for Jan '24 and 2.05 for Dec '24, the Linux market share increased by 17% in the entire last year.
    • I’ll stop now.
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      Considering how people love to delay things until the last minute, I expect it’ll sharply rise in October.

      I know this because I’m one of those people. Linux on several PCs and servers for years, but I’ve been too lazy to format & rebuild my gaming PC to get it off win10 and onto Linux.