• Commiunism@beehaw.org
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    10 months ago

    Love how the exact same thing is now being said about the US lmao (the collapse part at least), I LOVE the media machine

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    10 months ago

    An evil authoritarian regime that is committing human rights abuses and does not follow democratic norms … but we’ll do billions of dollars worth of trade with them and base a lot of our industries around trading with them. But they’re still evil.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah that tracks, same with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

      Being aware of America’s abuses of power is good. Being contrarian and acting like everything they’ve ever said about China is a lie is bad.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Pundits have been predicting the economic collapse of the PRC for decades, there’s an entire sub-industry dedicated to “China Watching” that makes good revenue from predicting xyz economic collapse, and it exists because the West wants the PRC to open up its markets for foreigners to plunder freely, rather than the current situation where trade in China is heavily controlled and managed.

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      10 months ago

      What is mutually exclusive, though, is reality and China’s “imminent collapse” which has been looming just around the corner for the past 20 years

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    10 months ago

    China will be the best country in the world the same day fusion reactors will be available. Always in ten years. No matter when you read this.

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      10 months ago

      To get terminology out of the way, they are building towards Communism through Socialism, ie an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. In other words, large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned, so the Bourgeoisie doesn’t have power over the state.

      Now that terms are out of the way, you’re correct, China does have billionaires. Even though that number is decreasing in recent years while working class purchasing power and wages are rising, that isn’t enough of an answer as to why they still exist. Billionaires represent a contradiction the CPC must resolve. But how is the best way to go about that? What time scale? The CPC’s role is to gradually resolve contradictions within Socialism in favor of the Proletariat in any inter-class dispute. They have to erase the foundations for billionaires, not the billionaires themselves.

      I recommend checking out China Has Billionaires. The important thing to understand is that contradictions exist in all systems, and it is the process of working out these contradictions that provides room for advancement.

    • superniceperson@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      Its run by the communist party, whose purpose is guiding the country to communism and self dissolution; which has necessitated not skipping over the industrial and consumer revolutions, both of which likely require capitalism, but in any case have been done with capitalism so that path is easier and known, allowing them to benefit from the waste from less competent countries.

      Or in other words, they’re the only country in history to execute billionaires, whatever they are is objectively better than the US or EU.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          Dialectics in this context refers to the aspects within the Marxist philosophy of Dialectical Materialism for the analysis of contradictions, and the direction they are resolved in. Billionaires within Socialism are a contradiction, therefore whether the state supports or works towards eliminating the foundations for them is what needs to be analyzed. I answered in another comment more about that.