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        Both are quite secure but neither of them stop an idiot on one end or the other from sharing the contents with the public.

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          I always find it funny how many people fail to understand the “end to end” part of end to end encryption.

          If your endpoint isn’t secure then the messages aren’t.

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          whatsapp is closed source and meta owned. i think it’s incredibly foolish to trust that it has no backdoors built in.

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            That’s not how encryption works. But you’re not wrong about it being owned by meta being a problem. There’s more info in a message than just the contents.

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              you say that but they’re already thinking a step ahead and assuming meta left a backdoor or CVE at the behest of 3-letter agencies.

              What’s facebook’s business plan? Right, surveillance capitalism.

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                IIRC whatsapp’s automatic backups are stored in cloud and unencrypted by default. So it takes only one person in the group chat who has backups enabled (pop up reminds periodically if not) and no password is set (not required, takes effort and will to set) to leak everyone’s messages.

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                I assume no encryption is safe from three letter gangs, at this point I’m only concerned with keeping grubby corporate fingers at bay.

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      Works better than Teams.

      Probably has better privacy and confidentiality options too.

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      There’s “WhatsApp for Business” & “WhatsApp Business Solutions”.
      Catch-up, grandpa!

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        I’m aware the technologies exist - I can’t fathom wanting my sensitive communications served by meta.

        Also, grandma* - my pronouns are right there.

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              Wait, what confusion? I use Voyager and I have no confusion about who is whom. I can see in the lower reply box that you are balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one.

              The only issue with pronouns is that people who assume default maleness should be locked up anyway, so that’s an entirely separate issue.

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                People who assume default maleness should be locked up anyway

                Huh? What the heck did i just read?

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                Context is important and voyager does not provide that. Many people respond to the wrong person in threads. For example you just replied to me about pronouns which isn’t my topic.

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              Tbf, I don’t read unames, and my app shows the pronouns in line with and the same color as the unames, so I don’t read those either.

              Literally no clue who I’m even responding to right now. Doesn’t really matter who it is either, my response would be the same regardless of your race/gender/whatever else.

              The one exception is whenever I see something profoundly stupid I will sometimes check the uname and go “ah yes cowbee again how predictable” but that’s just pure entertainment and learning who here not to waste energy on, most comments are just comments and don’t warrant that level of self preservation.

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        I think those are for sales, like b2c advertising. Not for how your business talks to each other internally to destroy databases.