Why not both

windows was more like 30-something years ago. 95 was the huge one afaik.

we could probably guess op’s age for some of his choices here tbh.

SpaceX

I’m sure Musk hand coded it in JS and then paid some underpaid dude who is only slightly less abused in the US instead of india to unfuck his dogshit.

Here is the way I am interpreting the names for the extreme stereotypes of quadrants/corners:

Cogdev:

cog in the machine, you are fully subsumed into ‘the process’, you have abandoned the shackles of humanity as you once knew them, and view an org flow chart of people and teams producing some software nearly identically to how you would look at a process flow chart for actual software systems.

souls are not only superfluous, but due to be patched out entirely in the next semi-annual release, you don’t see why anyone would need one or miss them.

Soydev:

you are cogdev, but you are also delusional and think you are not; you think what you are doing is some kind of ‘good’ in some way, some way that will achieve some nebulous concept of making ‘things’ ‘better’ for some kind of group of people.

you aren’t, and you won’t, but delusion is your superpower; your ego has an actually physically measurable mass.

until, that is, you finally have your cognitive dissonance either totally erode or violently shatter, and then you realize you are are no different from cogdev in anyway other than branding and marketing… which are at least practical skills for you to better serve your corporate masters.

fake it till you make, or else fake it till you break it and then crash out like an unpotty trained billionaire.

Hypedev:

you are actually fucking around with novel shit that may potentially yield an actual paradigm shift, but you also probably know that almost no one will notice this paradigm shift… and it could all just be a giant waste of time anyway.

you probably either don’t really care, or care way, way, waaaay too much.

doesn’t really matter either way, not like you’re gonna get rich from this, you’re not in it to win it, you’re in it to find every possible way to fail untill all that remains is probably an actual good idea. … maybe?

decent chance you have anger issues, intermittent explosive disorder, bidpolar disorder, some kind of dysphoria, hyper-autism, etc.

Libredev:

you are good, probably quite good, at what you do, but this means you can tend to view anything other than the way you do things as unreliable or unproven.

on the one hand, people like you disappear completely? utter catastrophe with maybe a 3 to 9 month fuse.

on the other hand… people like you largely in fact are disappearing, so… maybe it would be a good idea to dial down the ‘get-off-my-lawn-o-meter’ such that you could at least maybe teach someone how to follow in your footsteps…

… or, god forbid, go through all your own code and actually document and comment it such that someone other than literally only you may have a chance at understanding any of it.

There is that weird conspiracy theory that soybeans contain an estrogen adjacent substance which makes men more feminine. Complete nonsense but it gets especially funny when these people are advocating for cows milk instead of soy milk, because the former actually contains mammalian estrogen.

It’s commonly used as a synonym for beta. Like the alpha, beta, omega, sigma male nonsense? Same dumb concept.

Soy is beans and beans rock.

I. Or I am.

I hear what you are saying, but you can’t ignore the disruption vs traditional axis of ‘brand new shit’ vs ‘archaic shit that is still the basis of everything for probably a lot of good reasons.’

Thats the y axis.

The x axis is basically full corpo on the right, full foss/anarchist on the left.

So, the vibe coder is a soydev who works for cogdevs, or people somewhere between cogdev and soydev.

Here’s how I look at this.

Maybe if you went with… not the corners of the quadrants, but the tips of the axes, you’d get:

top:

ancient wizard of languages that aren’t even really taught anymore (COBOL, for example), but which everything actually runs on if you dig deep enough.

bottom:

hyper early adopter / innovator / formal researcher who does things because they can, asking about “should we do this?” is for cowards, yolo, etc

left:

open source radical anarchist, money is a disgusting thing that is unfortunately somewhat necessary to fund development

right:

full corpo bastard, code doesn’t actually matter, making money from code matters.

Further down in this thread, under another comment, I basically tried to do a ‘personality test’ or maybe ‘ttrpg archetype description’ style write up of the corners of the quadrants… at least my way of trying to make sense out of what I think whoever made this image is going for.

I mean, all my responses in this thread have been hip shooting as well lol.

And its not a personal attack to say if you’re a soydev, you’re grillin’ soy burgers.

I mean sure, maybe they’re not quite the same taste as beef, but uh, nothin’ really wrong with a less than totally conventional burger, imo.

Its just a joke lol, didn’t mean to offend, just word/concept association = joke/pun, thats roughly how my autistic ass formulates ‘zingers’ lol.