no Google
I do not believe you.
Arch Linux
Okay, fine. A rare sighting.
There are dozens of us. And we are used to reading manuals, since we first installed our system.
They did it before the Internet was even a thing, my friend.
I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.
Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can’t just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.
I just chose to use tools to make my life easier
If you don’t then I’d call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That’s the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.
Google went live in 98? First Arch in 02?
I’m talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.
I understood your point fine. I indeed started out with first Commodore BASIC and then into 6502, all using the manuals because there wasn’t much else of a source back then.
Your English is fine. The same words often evoke different mental images from one person to another. Sometimes I have trouble distinguishing when to embrace literal meanings and when to go with the general gist of words. Thanks for addressing my comment, a gentle reminder for me.
Thank you 🫡
But he went out of his way to install man pages on arch? Probably a narc.
Aren’t they there by default?
If you’re using arch, you shouldn’t need man pages. Because you use arch, BTW.
Wait, what? Arch has more comprehensive documentation than just about any other distro.
I remember using man pages when I was contributing to a C open source project back in the day.
It is extremely easy to use the internet without using google.
Yeah, otherwise it would have been very hard before they came into being.
Remember when the internet was more than like 5 websites?
Gen Z doesn’t.
Yay! Cencorship! I spent an extra 3 seconds focusing on the word psychopath trying to figure out what went wrong instead of reading it like a normal word. Isn’t that so much better than offending an algorithm with the letter ‘h’?
Psychopatl
Wasn’t that one of the Incan gods?
I was thinking Nahuatl
You are thinking of the one they used to design the common keyboard layout, Qwertycoatl.
I’m partial to Tomatl and Ahuacatl
Could also just be a non native English speaker.
There is a couple of pixels coming out from the middle of the ‘l’
Yea fair I guess I’m tired
Well have a nap…
THEN FIRE Z MISSILES!!!
You saw that but not devloper? Buncha amateurs.
My cycle goes : think think think, draw, think, draw, think, write code for a day or 3.
I use an ide or a text editor. never use that other stuff.
Vim ftw!
I can’t live without vim.
Sometimes I wander into vscode but it’s less productive for me.
Plus vscode has weird name inconsistencies (the app is called visual studio code, it’s branded as vscode, and the menu bar says Code), which is probably normal for Microsoft but unusual elsewhere.
I should fork vim and call it ‘death’, so I can shout “give me vim or give me death!” any time someone suggests a different editor.
Helix crew 🖐️
As another Helix user, I’ll gladly accept the high five 👏
Helix FTW!
I still remember my Masters degree in distributed computing. C++ in vi (not even vim), monochromatic display, 36 computers working together to give me a bunch of SIGSEGV.
The joys of distributed algorithms. You can now get more errors, more quickly than before!
I remember writing a chat system in assembler, for DOS, using, IIRC, IPX networking. When it went wrong, one or more machines would just freeze, with the string “NETWORK ABEND” in the middle of the screen.
I was going to ask how he knew it was Arch, but I feel like that is just setting up the next comment.
Is psychopatl an Aztec insult I don’t know about?
Someone cropped the last line? What a sociopatl
(For any nerd wondering, the name of the language is Nahuatl but I guess Aztec language is more recognizable for the sake of the joke lol)
It cut off the h.
Props for living up to your username
Yesterday I spent about 2 hours trying to get ChatGPT to walk me through the install process of putting Arch on a 2011 MacBook Air. It just wouldn’t work and the further along we got the harder it seemed and I really thought that using AI was necessary. I finally gave up and read the Arch Wiki and had it installed in under 45 minutes.
That tracks. The AI push is extraordinarily premature. It makes sense that capitalist idiots see mass layoffs as improvement, but rational people do not.
I had an internship 15 years ago where I was forced to write C++ with no internet access. I had to use a programming manual and man pages.
Like an animal.
25 years ago I was writing code in a paper notebook, sometimes while riding the bus. The only computer access was at college and it was easier to work through the code on paper and then quickly transcribe it once I got on campus.
Yeah, things are a bit more complicated now, but in other ways they are sooooo much easier. The fact that people are using chatGPT to ‘program’ is just crazy from my perspective.
Is this supposed to be a joke or have we truly gotten to the point where … coding in a terminal via like hyprland or w/e, without relying on an what is basically an annoying tutorial character from a video game that acts as an assistant…
This is psycopathy?
Having actual competence in one’s field?
Oh god we’re all doomed, they’ll soon be alternating between worshipping us demigods, or burning us at the stake.
EDIT:
Welp, I’m sure thats a good sign, lol.
Back in my day we would program using office hole puncher and going to a library every time we needed to look up some API information.
Just straight up raw-dogging it
Someone at work was shocked I was using RubyMine and not VSCode or Cursor. Am I getting old now ?
I prefer man pages through google
